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helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! #138021
10/17/08 03:30 PM
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71mopardude Offline OP
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whats the best way to get off an over tighten oil filter (small block in an a-body with manifolds) ihave already broken one filter wrench should i rip the metal off and then try to turn the threads off??? what to do ???? thanks

Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: 71mopardude] #138022
10/17/08 03:41 PM
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whats the best way to get off an over tighten oil filter (small block in an a-body with manifolds) ihave already broken one filter wrench should i rip the metal off and then try to turn the threads off??? what to do ???? thanks




try grabbing it with a strip of rubber between the filter and the wrench !


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Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: limechallenger] #138023
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Drive a long punch through it as close to the base as possible and turn the punch.

Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: MoparforLife] #138024
10/17/08 04:01 PM
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Drive a long punch through it as close to the base as possible and turn the punch.






And if that don't work, use the punch and a hammer, start tapping it counter clock wise.


Oh... read the directions on the side of the filter next time.

When was the last time you heard of a filter coming off be itself? there is no need to over tighten it.


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: HealthServices] #138025
10/17/08 04:04 PM
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lmao im not that stupid its a car i just bought not one that i have worked on before lol but thanks for the advice i will give it a try !!!

Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: HealthServices] #138026
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take a phillips screw driver in one hand get a hammer in the other, tap it thru then turn it. Let all the oil leak out and into a catch can..the pop another hole and turn, by then it should be loose enough to turn by hand

Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: Mr.Yuck] #138027
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Are you getting the wrench as close to the block as possible?

Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: 71mopardude] #138028
10/17/08 04:14 PM
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punch through it and turn, or if it is not too oily, grab some course sandpaper, wrap the filter and use your muscles. Make sure that you add a thin coat of oil to the rubber gasket on the new filter to prevent this....and don;t put it on with a wrench, hand tight is plenty.


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Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: 71mopardude] #138029
10/18/08 02:04 PM
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Got it off!!!!!!!!!!!! took removing the exhaust and putting a long punch through it and an oil filter wrench on it and reefing on both like a mother !!! lol why do ppl do these things????
will post a pic of the mangled filter later just for laughs thanks to all for the help

Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: 71mopardude] #138030
10/18/08 11:57 PM
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It's right up there with shops using an air wrench to crank down the lug nuts. "What, they're supposed to be torqued to a certain spec? " Just causes more trouble down the line and there's no need for it...

Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: In_The_Pink] #138031
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next time, try this trick my dad taught me.

use a belt. wrap a belt around it so it goes thru the buckle and back over itself . make it so when you pull on it, it unwinds. works EVERY TIME

Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! #138032
10/20/08 02:25 PM
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I have run into oil filters that the belt trick won't work with even with sand paper in between. I have also run into filters that a punch through the body of the filter just rips the can.

In the most subborn cases a large slip joint plier grabing the base usually works and if you can get a purcahse on the base then a cold chisel tangentially on the base will bit in enough to allow you to tap it loose with a hammer.


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Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: dgc333] #138033
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We have had cars towed in from the oil change shops with just the oil filter base on. Everything else was tried and failed, nothing left but the base.

I use the cold chisel on the remaining parts and tap it loose with a hammer.

Easy 1 hour labor, 10 minutes work or less after pushing the car onto the rack..


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: HealthServices] #138034
10/20/08 02:50 PM
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Oh plus the cost of an oil change, of course I don't get paid for any part of the tow.


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: HealthServices] #138035
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I use 2 filter wrenches together. Extreme cases we have used 2 strap along with a end cup style. When rookies here at work tear off the can I air chisel the base to rotate it around. either way will work one is messier. i've been a dealer tech 26 years,these methods will work.
Doug

Re: helppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!! [Re: 71mopardude] #138036
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At the risk of stating the obvious, the shards from a stabbed filter can be very sharp indeed. Use great care when taking the hammer and chisel to the nothing-left-but-the-base oil filter that got towed into your shop.

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