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C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! #1368352 01/12/13 02:37 AM 01/12/13 02:37 AM
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gogo318 OP member G Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 106 waco tx	ive been digging all day online for lower ball joints for my 68 chrysler newport it has the disk breaks frount with the one year only kelsey hayes 4 piston calipers i found some sites that have them but not for he kelsey hayes breaks they have 4 holes insted of two and i just cant find them can any body help me!!! my car has been torn down for two weeks because i cant find the ball joints 67 charger fastback 318 stock 67 belvedere II 4dr soft top built 318 68 newport 2dr hard top 318 84 b150 440/727 84 d150 short wheel step side 4x4 lifted 87 omnitruck (you just have to see it ) new addition 63 dart wagon !!!

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: gogo318] #1368353 01/12/13 02:40 AM 01/12/13 02:40 AM
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Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 340SHORTY] #1368354 01/12/13 04:42 PM 01/12/13 04:42 PM
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feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,068 Irving, TX	Quote: www.rareparts.com I bought an idler arm from Rare Parts for my 72 Imperial. It's a reman but a real nice part. We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: feets] #1368355 01/12/13 06:16 PM 01/12/13 06:16 PM
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Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: EWJ] #1368356 01/12/13 07:27 PM 01/12/13 07:27 PM
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Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: 05dakota] #1368357 01/12/13 07:42 PM 01/12/13 07:42 PM
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hemi71x master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,357 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa...	FYI Your Chrysler has BUDD disc brakes on it, not Kelsey Hayes. And the big Chrysler's used them from 1966 to 68, and the Imperials used them until 1969. RF-4C Phantom 69-370 Zweibrucken, Germany

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: EWJ] #1368358 01/12/13 07:59 PM 01/12/13 07:59 PM
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Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,562 Downtown Roebuck Ont	Not sure if you are an original parts only guy but those Budd brakes are a money pit. The simple solution is to get a set of 69-72 or 73 C-body spindles and lower balljoints. Balljoint is the same from 65-73. 73 is the preferable spindle because the 73 rotor is 1/3 the price of the 69-72 rotor but is getting hard to find because it's 1 year only. The rest of the parts like balljoints, pads and calipers are the same and readily available. Kevin

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Twostick] #1368359 01/12/13 10:03 PM 01/12/13 10:03 PM
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High Impact pro stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,562 Manistee, Michigan.	I've got a pair of used one's off my 68 Sport Fury that I replaced the brake's with the 73 era one's because I could'nt find new/re-man calipers. Muskegon brake said they could sleeve them but it was SUPER expensive and the car's not a rare numbers matching car so I swapped everything over. I saved all my old parts and have the lower's if you need them. Just let me know.

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Twostick] #1368360 01/13/13 10:09 AM 01/13/13 10:09 AM
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dart1962_440 mopar Joined: May 2005 Posts: 629 Michigan	Quote: Not sure if you are an original parts only guy but those Budd brakes are a money pit. The simple solution is to get a set of 69-72 or 73 C-body spindles and lower balljoints. Balljoint is the same from 65-73. 73 is the preferable spindle because the 73 rotor is 1/3 the price of the 69-72 rotor but is getting hard to find because it's 1 year only. The rest of the parts like balljoints, pads and calipers are the same and readily available. Kevin I believe 73 rotors were also used on trucks & vans until around 1980 so there should be more available than earlier styles.

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: dart1962_440] #1368361 01/13/13 05:36 PM 01/13/13 05:36 PM
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Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,562 Downtown Roebuck Ont	Quote: Quote: Not sure if you are an original parts only guy but those Budd brakes are a money pit. The simple solution is to get a set of 69-72 or 73 C-body spindles and lower balljoints. Balljoint is the same from 65-73. 73 is the preferable spindle because the 73 rotor is 1/3 the price of the 69-72 rotor but is getting hard to find because it's 1 year only. The rest of the parts like balljoints, pads and calipers are the same and readily available. Kevin I believe 73 rotors were also used on trucks & vans until around 1980 so there should be more available than earlier styles. That's why they are cheaper. They used the same rotor on c's, vans and d100's from 73 until the trucks went to 5x5.5 bolt circle in the early 80's. I'm assuming the B series van switched bolt circles at the same time the trucks did. I've heard a rumor that they are machining the unicast rotor for the 72 and earlier spindle size but the price is still 3x's the 73 style. Still WAY cheaper than lower balljoints, rotors and calipers for a Budd system. Kevin

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: gogo318] #1368362 01/17/13 06:38 PM 01/17/13 06:38 PM
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Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: BUBBAZ572] #1368363 01/19/13 01:40 AM 01/19/13 01:40 AM
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Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,562 Downtown Roebuck Ont	Mid-Canada Suspension specializes in obsolete stuff. One man show apparently. http://www.members.shaw.ca/midcansusp/index.htm Kevin

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Twostick] #1368364 01/25/13 09:31 PM 01/25/13 09:31 PM
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gogo318 OP member G Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 106 waco tx	ok so my ball joints seem to be serviceable for a lil while longer but i will need to do something about them eventually i have access to a all drums 68 newport should i just convert it to that? my rotors are great and i just bought new calipers (300 bucks worth) i can get my pads relined for 14 bucks local cause they cant be found replacement my car isnt # matching (hell its got a 318/904 from an 85 truck) i just want it to last i want it to be a daily driver 67 charger fastback 318 stock 67 belvedere II 4dr soft top built 318 68 newport 2dr hard top 318 84 b150 440/727 84 d150 short wheel step side 4x4 lifted 87 omnitruck (you just have to see it ) new addition 63 dart wagon !!!

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: gogo318] #1368365 01/26/13 01:29 AM 01/26/13 01:29 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,562 Downtown Roebuck Ont Twostick Still wishing...
Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,562 Downtown Roebuck Ont	If you are going to convert it to anything, go find a 73 C-body and get the spindles off it. 69-73 disc brake spindles use the same lower ball joint as the drum brake cars back to 65. If the ball joints on the 68 drum car are serviceable, use them. everything else you can buy at your favorite parts store including the lower joints if you need them. It sounds like you can still drive the car as is so I would start shopping for for a 73 donor car. 69-72 will work also and are more plentiful but the rotors are more expensive. Other than that, they are the same as the 73. Same rotor size, same calipers, pads, etc. Kevin

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Twostick] #1368366 01/26/13 02:45 AM 01/26/13 02:45 AM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 236 Southern CA Colin Frolick enthusiast
Colin Frolick enthusiast Joined: May 2006 Posts: 236 Southern CA	http://ubmachine.com/balljointsleeves.html cut up your lower arm and weld in a ring to use the common mopar k727 lower ball joint... or whatever common ball joint will fit your spindle's taper. you could even ream the spindle to make a better ball joint fit. we did something like this to my buddy's '64 fairlane because the lower ball joints for it are stupid expensive.

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Colin Frolick] #1368367 01/27/13 04:19 PM 01/27/13 04:19 PM
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Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,562 Downtown Roebuck Ont	I'm not sure how you would make that work with this. Kevin 7563528-balljoint.jpg (611 downloads)

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Twostick] #1368368 01/28/13 02:09 AM 01/28/13 02:09 AM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 236 Southern CA Colin Frolick enthusiast
Colin Frolick enthusiast Joined: May 2006 Posts: 236 Southern CA	Quote: I'm not sure how you would make that work with this. Kevin ick. well then i got nothing

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Colin Frolick] #1368369 01/28/13 01:43 PM 01/28/13 01:43 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,562 Downtown Roebuck Ont Twostick Still wishing...
Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,562 Downtown Roebuck Ont	I think those sleeves are more for repairing control arms that have screw in joints. His practical solution is to get the disc brake spindles and ball joints from a 69-73 preferably 73 C-body and call it a day. Kevin

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Twostick] #1368370 01/28/13 04:10 PM 01/28/13 04:10 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 236 Southern CA Colin Frolick enthusiast
Colin Frolick enthusiast Joined: May 2006 Posts: 236 Southern CA	so here is the difference in a c-body vs. imperial front suspension. i didn't know they were that different. 7564796-1971-1978CHRYSLERANDIMPERIALFRONTSUSPENSIONDIAGRAM.jpg (363 downloads)

Re: C body ball joints HELP!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Colin Frolick] #1368371 01/30/13 06:39 PM 01/30/13 06:39 PM
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440newport master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,588 St. John's Newfoundland	Quote: so here is the difference in a c-body vs. imperial front suspension. i didn't know they were that different. Yeah, practically nothing interchanges between the 67-73 unibody Imperials and C bodies suspension-wise other than maybe the shocks. The 69-73 cars look similar, but from the firewall forward they were still their own car.

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