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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
[Re: sublimehemi]
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12/29/12 05:06 AM
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can somebody post pics how eberg did it in the write up....or rick if your reading this.... post up some pics here please.......everyone here is complaining....look,shipping your old steering box back and forth to firm feel will beat least 70 bucks plus 359 for box your at $430..summit has new box for $640 and is currently out of stock on them on both splines...so they must be selling them cause last time i checked they had both in stock......you can sell your old for 200 or more depending on your condition...and its a wash.... i am in the market for the new box and going to buy it soon... i am waiting to see if summit will do 15% in a few days like they did last year... then its $544 
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
[Re: 1_WILD_RT]
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12/29/12 01:46 PM
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Randy, you are a reasonable guy and we tend to agree on many things here on Moparts, and I see your point of view and understand that it can be done if you so choose. My point (and others here) was that some of us would rather not go through the process of removing the steering column, swapping shafts, or whatever else just to do a steering box swap. If this box were all scienced out (as i feel it should be) it would not require modifying the box, steering column, or require Rube Goldberg'd fitting and hose connectors. These are all things they could handle if they really wanted to, heck Ehrenburg even did the R&R for them and made possible suggestions (that seem to have fallen on deaf ears?). IMO people are too quick to accept mediocrity in todays market place, it leads to a bunch of half azzed products that fills the niche enough that other quality competitors avoid any attempts. What happened to doing things right? 
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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12/29/12 02:14 PM
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I agree it would be better if they had taken the project to a higher level, & I agree in the case of restoration parts not getting the final details right is a deal breaker and poisons the market for another vendor to offer a superior product.... But this steering box isn't aimed at a resto project, it's aimed at someone that wants performance... I haven't seen make performance parts that truly are bolt on, you need to modify.... Borgeson has their roots in Hotrods not restorations, I don't see them making a coupler, though I've certainly been wrong before... They have the equipment & skills to do it. A fairly simple CAD program, a block of steel & a trip to a heat treater & they could make a short run to see if the demand truly is there....
FWIW my point is swapping just the lower shaft of a collapsing column isn't difficult & since your cutting it anyway the original application of the lower shaft isn't critical....
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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12/29/12 02:48 PM
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This is where being a junk collector pays off having six or seven extra columns. A parts column out of the pull a part or a swap meet can be had for $30 or less seeing we only need the shaft.
But I'm too cheap to spend $600 on a steering box. If you have $600 for a steering box you can afford to spend extra to make it fit.
If you are doing a prissy car where everything has to be perfect doing a major change like this doesn't make sense. But if you are going to let it all hang out no big deal in cutting a column.
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
[Re: moparpollack]
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12/29/12 04:09 PM
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If you are doing a prissy car where everything has to be perfect doing a major change like this doesn't make sense.
Maybe not to you anyway show us what YOU are working on?
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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12/29/12 04:35 PM
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I only have old junk. Tried having a nicer car but that wasn't any fun. My last suspension mod was switching frames, cutting the column, grinding the shaft to make it work. Rack and pinion is going to be nice!  http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab141/moparpollack/132.jpg
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
[Re: sublimehemi]
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12/29/12 05:19 PM
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i haven't read the article and i can't buy it yet in my hometown, I have a 71-74 bbody column, so theres no collapsing joints, just a straight shaft, I know with the box they reccomended the universal coupler : http://www.borgeson.com/xcart/product.php?productid=1724i was wondering if one couldn't use a rag joint instead? http://www.summitracing.com/search/brand...g-joints?page=2They had these rag joints on some of the columns to reduce vibration (i think the slang term was hockey pucks) what would be the superior one to have?
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
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12/29/12 05:31 PM
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The last one I bought was $65 from Parr automotive 36 spline .75". We just welded it on the shaft and used the set screw.
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
[Re: 1_WILD_RT]
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12/29/12 05:44 PM
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Reason for the hole in the floor? The Borgeson box I'm usin was intended for a Mustang which has about 4" more room in the engine compartment so the coupler would be in the enginge compartment... On my Falcon it's in line with the firewall.. My solution...
"The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."
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Re: Borgeson steering box install by Rick Ehernberg
[Re: 1_WILD_RT]
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12/30/12 01:10 AM
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I sent Borgeson an email after I read the article to ask if they were going to make couplers.
They said they weren't planning to.
I was hoping they would. How could that not help the box sell?
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