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Change at Indy Cylinder Heads #1342015 11/27/12 12:59 PM 11/27/12 12:59 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	I have been given an opportunity to work at Indy Cylinder Heads. Im going to take care of their internet presence, social media, phone sales, help our distributors and customers with problems, and anything else that comes up. Let me know if I can help. Josh

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342016 11/27/12 01:08 PM 11/27/12 01:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,142 Central New York slippery440 Crybaby440
slippery440 Crybaby440 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,142 Central New York	In other words you are going to kiss alot of butt and nothing will change. Key words are YOU ARE WORKING FOR. If the MODS did their job I would not be hitting the notify MOD button. LOL

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342017 11/27/12 01:08 PM 11/27/12 01:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,920 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer Too Many Posts
tboomer Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,920 United Socialist States of Ame...	Josh...I wish you the best of luck and hope you can do something with the customer service department. I would rather go back to 906 heads than to deal with those pricks! Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: tboomer] #1342018 11/27/12 01:11 PM 11/27/12 01:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn top fuel
70dusterjohn top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	Good luck Josh, if anyone and do anything about it, I think you could.. If I have problems I will call you

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1342019 11/27/12 01:16 PM 11/27/12 01:16 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	I see some nuttwisting soon.We at BGR hope the best for you. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: B G Racing] #1342020 11/27/12 01:25 PM 11/27/12 01:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana Dunnuck Racing master
Dunnuck Racing master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana	Based on how hard Josh works to try and make everybody happy ,this looks like the best thing Indy has done in years. They make awesome products but have a bad reputation for customer service that will take time to overcome . I personally only ever had good dealings with Indy so I stay away from the bashing when posted. Glad to hear it Josh! Keith www.dunnuckracing.com

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: B G Racing] #1342021 11/27/12 01:26 PM 11/27/12 01:26 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	My goodness Josh, you are a brave sole. Good luck with this. The good thing is there is lots of room for improvement and that will be a plus for all. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: dannysbee] #1342022 11/27/12 01:30 PM 11/27/12 01:30 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Good Luck Josh Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342023 11/27/12 01:33 PM 11/27/12 01:33 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA B bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan
bwdst6 Bob George Racing #1 Fan B Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 970 Backwater, PA	You might have tried to apply for a job to eliminate the national debt. Would have been easier! Good luck though. This post is available in double vision where drunk.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: dannysbee] #1342024 11/27/12 01:34 PM 11/27/12 01:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 235 Tucson AZ. RADAMX enthusiast
RADAMX enthusiast Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 235 Tucson AZ.	Maybe you can get through to someone there that they have a terrible name out here for there customer service.A lot of people would be buying there product if there name wasn't slammed so much on the web.. Instead people are trying other stuff (good or Bad )just to avoid Indy. Good luck and hope they treat you well..

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: RADAMX] #1342025 11/27/12 01:42 PM 11/27/12 01:42 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Thanks guys This is an open invitation for anyone to call me. Feel free to ask for me when you call, you can PM me here, on fastmopar, text me, call my cell and once I get an offical email address I will post that as well. Not only am I pretty Im nice!!!!!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342026 11/27/12 01:44 PM 11/27/12 01:44 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	GOOD LUCK........... Lord knows they need help over there. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342027 11/27/12 01:54 PM 11/27/12 01:54 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Quote: Thanks guys This is an open invitation for anyone to call me. Feel free to ask for me when you call, you can PM me here, on fastmopar, text me, call my cell and once I get an offical email address I will post that as well. Not only am I pretty Im nice!!!!! This is a heck of a way to start out,trying to bulshtz already,you maybe "personable" but certainly not "pretty" unless you think a bald bear pooping in the woods is cute. I've delt with Indy for quite some time and have met some great folks there and can only say that I personally hope it works out for you and look forward to dealing with you on a professional and personal level. respectfully Bob [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: sixpackgut] #1342028 11/27/12 01:59 PM 11/27/12 01:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA T Troy master
Troy master T Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,957 West Coast, CA	I sold Mopar Performance Part for over 15 years of my life....it's not a easy job. Here are some helpful hints that I have learned over the years: You must have faith in the parts that your selling or your nothing buy a lier. Treat people the way you want to be treated. It sounds silly but it does work. Customers will respect you if you run the parts that you sell. I had a 440 Duster for years and ran many of the same parts that I sold. This way you can give first hand knolage of the parts you sell. Be honest....be honest....be honest. If there is a part that you sell and you don't like it....don't sell it and tell the customer why you don't like the part. By doing this you get trust from the customer and that my friend is the best selling tool you can have. Good luck to you. ....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: B G Racing] #1342029 11/27/12 02:00 PM 11/27/12 02:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,363 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,363 Las Vegas	Best of luck with your new position Josh. i have heard some of the stories about Indy and sounds like you may have an uphill climb but it also appears it is something that they sorely need. An internet makeover so to speak. FWIW I have never had any issues dealing with them but my dealings have een very limited. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342030 11/27/12 02:03 PM 11/27/12 02:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,533 Indiana F Fury Fan master
Fury Fan master F Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,533 Indiana	Quote: Thanks guys This is an open invitation for anyone to call me. Feel free to ask for me when you call, you can PM me here, on fastmopar, text me, call my cell and once I get an offical email address I will post that as well. Not only am I pretty Im nice!!!!! I don't know them and I don't know you, but here's my thoughts based on seeing people get kicked around in the business world: If Indy is really wanting to improve their PR but not knowing how, and brought you in to do it, it's a good thing. but... If they don't really feel they have a problem, and too many people chum up to you and you improve the customer experience (which could mean $$ leaves Indy's hands to correct problems) they could view you as not benefitting their business. It takes a LONG time to reverse a bad rep, and it often takes paying out more warranty while you improve quality. Some folks might not realize that dip as part of the recovery and instead think you've damaged their bottom line. EDIT - Congrats, too! New jobs are always exciting in some way. Last edited by Fury Fan; 11/27/12 02:13 PM. Parts I seek: driver doorpanel, 65 Sport Fury, prefer black, needs to be 7-8 on 10 scale, might buy set 16" x 6" Dodge truck wheel(s), from early 70s?, takes 9" dogdish - need for a research job so cheaper is better. 69-73 C-body caliper brackets and/or splashields Send a PM.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Fury Fan] #1342031 11/27/12 02:13 PM 11/27/12 02:13 PM
Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 235 Gilbert AZ tsanchez enthusiast
tsanchez enthusiast Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 235 Gilbert AZ	First thing tell them they need to get better at quality control, after that you can calm the masses. Getting expensive crap with a smile does not make it not crap.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342032 11/27/12 02:15 PM 11/27/12 02:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 570 USA H Hooligan mopar
Hooligan mopar H Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 570 USA	I gave Indy three chances, and they sold me broken products each time. One I took somewhere else to be repaired at my expense, and the other two I gave away. Strike three for Indy. There is nothing that they can ever do to get me back as a customer! Their competitors have made me quite happy! Good luck to you, but not to the mucky mucks at Indy!!!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Fury Fan] #1342033 11/27/12 02:18 PM 11/27/12 02:18 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Trust me, I am here for all the right reasons!!!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Hooligan] #1342034 11/27/12 02:23 PM 11/27/12 02:23 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,252 Sebring, Florida M Mopar Grandpa top fuel
Mopar Grandpa top fuel M Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,252 Sebring, Florida	Before this becomes another Indy Cylinder Head bashing thread, yes we have all read many of them in the past, let's give Josh an opportunity to be of service to the racing community. I know him and he is a stand up person, willing to go the extra mile and has genuine concern for those he's trying to serve. He too has a couple of very nice cars so it's not like he lost his job at an investment firm and took this job to keep from collecting unemployment. He understands both sides of the counter.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #1342035 11/27/12 02:32 PM 11/27/12 02:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 570 USA H Hooligan mopar
Hooligan mopar H Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 570 USA	OK...sorry. I'll have to bite my lip very hard every time I see the word "Indy" from now on, but I wish Indy would "bite me"! Oops! Sorry again!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Hooligan] #1342036 11/27/12 02:43 PM 11/27/12 02:43 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	What Happened Sash???

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342037 11/27/12 02:51 PM 11/27/12 02:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,813 Blue Ridge, VA Plumb Wired master
Plumb Wired master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,813 Blue Ridge, VA	Josh, I'll throw you and Indy a bone, price and availability on a RB offset distributor? Thanks, Mike Gray RIP Monte Smith aka: OutlawFish '98 Bickel Dodge Dakota PST

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342038 11/27/12 02:57 PM 11/27/12 02:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 570 USA H Hooligan mopar
Hooligan mopar H Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 570 USA	Hi Josh, I think it is best that I let go of my anger and move on, because I'll get kicked off of Moparts if I start up again. A total refund of my money would not even make up for what they did and said to me! Their arrogance is unbelievable!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Plumb Wired] #1342039 11/27/12 02:59 PM 11/27/12 02:59 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Quote: Josh, I'll throw you and Indy a bone, price and availability on a RB offset distributor? Thanks, Mike Gray I just want to throw Josh the bone. I just called and ordered a pizza with peperoni Last edited by B G Racing; 11/27/12 03:00 PM. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: B G Racing] #1342040 11/27/12 03:29 PM 11/27/12 03:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,608 fresno ca M mikeysmopars top fuel
mikeysmopars top fuel M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,608 fresno ca	I heard Mitt Romni durned that job down Hope to see things turn around 7478958-wchra#2.jpg (187 downloads) Founder and CEO of the Central Valley Mopar Drag Pack

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: mikeysmopars] #1342041 11/27/12 03:43 PM 11/27/12 03:43 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	Good luck Josh. I hope that you can make a positive change. Lots of organization take on the personality of the figureheads... sometimes that's good, others, not so much...

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: RobX4406] #1342042 11/27/12 03:49 PM 11/27/12 03:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,996 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart master
gregsdart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,996 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Good luck Josh, it will be nice to have someone from the board that is held in high regard to contact 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: gregsdart] #1342043 11/27/12 04:25 PM 11/27/12 04:25 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston aspenrt360 super stock
aspenrt360 super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 855 ontario canada kingston	i must be one lucky guy! i bought a set of heads from indy last summer, got them prepped and sent to me on time and for the right price. inspected them once they got here and all was well. it is a real shame if they have had issues because my dealings were good and we need guy's out there with the right products for our stuff! damm it was not so long ago we had almost no choices! good luck with your job make them understand how much more they could sell if they had awesome service it makes a difference! 2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Hooligan] #1342044 11/27/12 05:21 PM 11/27/12 05:21 PM
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Old School super stock O Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,169 Virginia Beach, VA	Quote: Hi Josh, I think it is best that I let go of my anger and move on, because I'll get kicked off of Moparts if I start up again. A total refund of my money would not even make up for what they did and said to me! Their arrogance is unbelievable! they riped me off too. i have spent over $40.000 with them. bought direct, so paid full retail. i paid to have my new set of cnc sr,s milled to get the chamber to 65cc. i did not check to see that it was done. checked everthing else thou. bolted them on and took 2 years to find the " problem". when i called them, they told me i was lying. fu*k indy.... Last edited by Old School; 11/27/12 05:22 PM. 68 cuda formula S 588" bb 5sp 70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (SUBLIME) 70 CUDA CONVERT 500" 5SP (PLUMCRAZY):TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342045 11/27/12 05:42 PM 11/27/12 05:42 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 506 Texas Afghanistan Iraq etc. D DakFink mopar
DakFink mopar D Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 506 Texas Afghanistan Iraq etc.	Good luck Josh!! I think you'll be a good asset. God knows they need it. Long as you and the guy that owns the place get a long and can work together and he lets you be the FACE for them. Then we'll all be in good hands. FYI: Post on the website any Mopar Pieces that they have available. I know several times they have had stuff that Mopar no longer carries available, BUT you'd never know unless you called and someone just happened to mention it.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: DakFink] #1342046 11/27/12 05:58 PM 11/27/12 05:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 622 sing sing U unknown mopar
unknown mopar U Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 622 sing sing	I will be in the market for a new aluminum Hemi block soon. For 4395.00 the Indy block looks like a good deal, Ill give you a ring when I'm ready.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342047 11/27/12 07:44 PM 11/27/12 07:44 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida P Performance Only top fuel
Performance Only top fuel P Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida	Many have listed customer service as something that needs to be addressed. I would agree with that based on conversations i've had with them in the past. They have had some very polite people over the years as well and that's always a plus. the real problem as i see it from being in the industry is that almost nothing they sell in regards to heads and blocks can be used as delivered. I'm wondering how being polite when a ticked off customer calls is going to help his situation of having to drop a bunch more money to correct what should've been correct when he bought it. I've worked with a lot of Indy parts over the years, but i've never seen a pair of heads that didn't need work, especially the valve job, or a block that didn't need align-honing on the mains, or more. If i'm ordering the parts in I just let the customer know to expect it, but when a customer orers the same parts they always expect them to be great right out of the box. Now, with all that being said, i'm only stating my experience. In the end i make money fixing those things so this isn't necesarilly a complaint, just an observation. Maybe Indy should just sell their parts as semi-finished, that way people know what to expect and wouldn't complain so much. That would sure make it easier for anyone in customer service. By the way, congratulations on the new job. Last edited by Performance Only; 11/27/12 07:45 PM. machine shop owner and engine builder

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Performance Only] #1342048 11/27/12 07:48 PM 11/27/12 07:48 PM
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Streetwize master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,875 Weddington, N.C.	Dan sums it up nicely! WIZE World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI In Car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Performance Only] #1342049 11/27/12 07:52 PM 11/27/12 07:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,996 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart master
gregsdart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,996 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Quote: Maybe Indy should just sell their parts as semi-finished, that way people know what to expect and wouldn't complain so much. That would sure make it easier for anyone in customer service. By the way, congratulations on the new job. Very good point! 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: gregsdart] #1342050 11/27/12 08:00 PM 11/27/12 08:00 PM
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572_dup2 Back On The Bumper!! Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,055 Salina ks	I bought stuff from years ago. It wasnt as advertised had to get a lawyer to get my money back. Best of luck! Shawn Jennings

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: 572_dup2] #1342051 11/27/12 08:11 PM 11/27/12 08:11 PM
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jg309 enthusiast J Joined: May 2009 Posts: 288 IL. Jerseyville	i needed so block work done, keep getting owner,told him i wanted the shop forman so icould mak arragements to get my block done without trouble & the ass hole said he told them what to do & he'd take care of it,just found someone else so i didn't have to talk to the [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] again

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: jg309] #1342052 11/27/12 08:22 PM 11/27/12 08:22 PM
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skrews mopar Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 429 Washington	Next time you see Russ, kick him in the nuts for me. good luck

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: skrews] #1342053 11/27/12 08:54 PM 11/27/12 08:54 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	I needed a set of set screws for my indy heads that go under the rockers. $32.95 for freakin set screws which cost 7 cents each.They put a little packet of set screws in a 18 x 18" box and charged me $34.95 for shipping. And I bypassed Indy and bought them from Mancini Racing and Mancini Racing got them dropped shipped from Indy to boot. What a bunch of crooks. I'm scared to death to buy anything from them again and I need a Indy Tunnelram badly by Christmas.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342054 11/27/12 09:50 PM 11/27/12 09:50 PM
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Hot 340 master Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,395 Pa	Unless I really had to, I would never drag my good name through the mud to work for such heartless people.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Hot 340] #1342055 11/27/12 10:12 PM 11/27/12 10:12 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,279 bcrproducts super gas
bcrproducts super gas Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,279	Josh is a great guy and I wish him well. He was one of the first guys to really get on board of BCRproducts and he always backed me so I would not hesitate to talk to him. It takes a stand up guy to change things and maybe this is the kick in the nuts that Indy needs. either that or it will be a very short employment opportunity if he has to bandaid the issues. I am sure he would not tolerate it very long if it is just a damage control job. I wish you the best my internet friend---Greg Henderson--BCRproducts

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: bcrproducts] #1342056 11/27/12 10:19 PM 11/27/12 10:19 PM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Good luck! BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342057 11/27/12 10:22 PM 11/27/12 10:22 PM
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rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	So according to BGR you're already bald...well that's a plus...and with that being said...I wish you all the best in you're new endeavor Rickster

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: rickstershemi] #1342058 11/27/12 10:31 PM 11/27/12 10:31 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Dont worry guys. This isnt something that will be short lived, and I have spoke to Russ in length about what we need to do to create the image that is deserved.... Its not going to be nearly as hard as you guys may think...

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342059 11/27/12 10:36 PM 11/27/12 10:36 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,475 SW Ohio C cgall top fuel
cgall top fuel C Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,475 SW Ohio	Wasn't there a guy named Sam something that came on here about two years ago and said he would help straighten out customer service problems? I think he was beaten badly by both sides and found another job.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: cgall] #1342060 11/27/12 10:39 PM 11/27/12 10:39 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Sam still helps with the shows.....

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: cgall] #1342061 11/27/12 10:45 PM 11/27/12 10:45 PM
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Dodgeguy101 mopar D Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 632 MD-USA	Quote: Wasn't there a guy named Sam something that came on here about two years ago and said he would help straighten out customer service problems? I think he was beaten badly by both sides and found another job. Sam Wilson I think. He was a nice guy and told you straight. Very Helpful. Was sorry to see him leave.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342062 11/27/12 10:46 PM 11/27/12 10:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 34,884 S.E. South Dakota ! bigdad Still Posting A Lot
bigdad Still Posting A Lot Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 34,884 S.E. South Dakota !	My results from dealing with Indy and Russ were above average .. Congrats on your new gig Josh, just more to stack on resume' ! The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: bigdad] #1342063 11/27/12 11:16 PM 11/27/12 11:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 753 Louisiana S Spyphish super stock
Spyphish super stock S Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 753 Louisiana	Before my AH project I had Ken whip up a 572 Hemi for the old Pancake Death Wish car to run Mopar races. While he was building it I got hit by Katrina & Rita. Kinda' rained on my parade (pun). They really took care of me and we still use that motor today (not AH). Runs like a "scalded dog". I go by and say Hi' at MATS every year. Good experience for me. Stephen CALMED THE QUAKE!!!(AGAIN!)

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342064 11/27/12 11:37 PM 11/27/12 11:37 PM
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CHAPPER master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	Quote: Dont worry guys. This isnt something that will be short lived, and I have spoke to Russ in length about what we need to do to create the image that is deserved.... Its not going to be nearly as hard as you guys may think... 7479566-7129629-BsButton.gif (101 downloads) If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: CHAPPER] #1342065 11/28/12 12:05 AM 11/28/12 12:05 AM
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Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Congrats on the new job... like I already told you, you have your work cut out for you!!! If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Big Squeeze] #1342066 11/28/12 12:08 AM 11/28/12 12:08 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Chits no fun if its easy

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342067 11/28/12 12:11 AM 11/28/12 12:11 AM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Chits no fun if its easy how about doing a video of the place BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: bigtimeauto] #1342068 11/28/12 12:48 AM 11/28/12 12:48 AM
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Wedgeman pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	Congrats on the new job ! Running -1 on my 408 and doing great ! I hope you bring a little shine on the brand name.....I'll be sure to give you a shout if I need anything in the upcomming weeks Dan

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342069 11/28/12 01:09 AM 11/28/12 01:09 AM
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Charger453 super stock C Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 867 Bellevue, NE	Quote: Dont worry guys. This isnt something that will be short lived, and I have spoke to Russ in length about what we need to do to create the image that is deserved.... Its not going to be nearly as hard as you guys may think... Huge Xmas blowout sale on some ez-1's or cnc sr's?

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: skrews] #1342070 11/28/12 01:14 AM 11/28/12 01:14 AM
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WHITEDART master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	russ at indy can choke.. and I hope he goes broke and dies as soon as possible Last edited by not_a_charger; 11/28/12 09:05 AM. In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342071 11/28/12 01:24 AM 11/28/12 01:24 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,128 Salt Lake City C camastomcat top fuel
camastomcat top fuel C Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,128 Salt Lake City	Quote: Chits no fun if its easy Well that's true.....but you have several years of Russ and Ken telling people they are idiots. Not saying that we're not at times, but you can't tell potetial customers that. Still, I wish you luck.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: camastomcat] #1342072 11/28/12 02:01 AM 11/28/12 02:01 AM
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493_DART master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA	best of luck Josh--you seem like a great dude. After what Ive read and heard over the years about that company, I will never buy a part from those p.ricks .

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: 493_DART] #1342073 11/28/12 02:09 AM 11/28/12 02:09 AM
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SpareParts pro stock Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,563 Janesville, WI	I wish you the best, never dropped money with them but had talked to them at the nats, saturday when I asked if they had anything around for W9's I was told they are a waste of time and for what I'm doing I could just use Edelbrock's. That's dandy but I was never asked nor did I say "what I'm doing" Then on sunday they have a stock pile of W9's on the back of their trailer talking them up like God himself just cast them out back. To say the least I felt misguided. . . slightly bamboozeled (word just doesn't get used enough)

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: SpareParts] #1342074 11/28/12 02:41 AM 11/28/12 02:41 AM
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72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	If you can shrink Ken's ego ,that would be a start. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: 72Swinger] #1342075 11/28/12 03:07 AM 11/28/12 03:07 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert moparmarks I Live Here
moparmarks I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Good luck Josh. Sounds like you have your work cutout for you. I've used 2 of their 528 and a 485 Hemis and some other parts and was happy with those products. The few times I did call them, man you'd thought it was the end of the world that they had to actually pick up the phone. Those people sounded like they just hated life or something. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: moparmarks] #1342076 11/28/12 10:30 AM 11/28/12 10:30 AM
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Fury Fan master F Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,533 Indiana	Quote: Good luck Josh. Sounds like you have your work cutout for you. As a bystander, here's what I see - 440source (and others) get bashed for quality-related stuff. Most of the angst is toward the parts, less so toward the employees. This thread, though, really shows where many folks loathe the people as much as the parts. So unless those people stay away from teh phones and sales counter, that'll be a tough turnaround.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Fury Fan] #1342077 11/28/12 11:04 AM 11/28/12 11:04 AM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Quote: Good luck Josh. Sounds like you have your work cutout for you. As a bystander, here's what I see - 440source (and others) get bashed for quality-related stuff. Most of the angst is toward the parts, less so toward the employees. This thread, though, really shows where many folks loathe the people as much as the parts. So unless those people stay away from teh phones and sales counter, that'll be a tough turnaround. so all the people have to do is buy the parts from a indy dealer and get usa made parts and knowledgeable help. I bought my stuff from Pete at best machine and never had a issue. Not to mention I am helping keep america people working by BUYING parts MADE HERE not just sold here. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: bigtimeauto] #1342078 11/28/12 11:36 AM 11/28/12 11:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Trying to change corporate culture is a major feat, especially if you don't get buy-in from the top to make things happen. Otherwise, it tends to become a frustrating & failed effort to do the right thing vs. the "that's how we've always done it in the past" mentality.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: BradH] #1342079 11/28/12 02:05 PM 11/28/12 02:05 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 831 Missouri G galen super stock
galen super stock G Joined: May 2009 Posts: 831 Missouri	I run a lot of Indy stuff, that being said I buy it from a dealer which machines it as needed. Why deal direct from Indy if you knew from reading here how you would be treated. I bought a Dart block and Brodix heads for my brother in laws boat, they both needed machining also. Good luck on the new job Josh, I will give you a shot.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: galen] #1342080 11/28/12 02:09 PM 11/28/12 02:09 PM
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TrWaters top fuel T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,129 Vermont	Good luck with the new job. Now the "what is Mopar missing" thread makes more sense.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: galen] #1342081 11/28/12 02:10 PM 11/28/12 02:10 PM
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max_maniac master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,350 Aurora, Oh.	Congrats Josh and I'm sure you will help the reputation of dealing direct with Indy. Now I have an Indy block, heads, intake and even a BIG Indy sticker on my windshield so is there a sponorship coming my way (next item is changing Indy bathtub intake to Indy tunnelram) Oh and I'll also take a large pizza with pepperoni, sausage and mushrooms please Russ

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: TrWaters] #1342082 11/28/12 02:37 PM 11/28/12 02:37 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Quote: Good luck with the new job. Now the "what is Mopar missing" thread makes more sense. winner winner chicken dinner

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: max_maniac] #1342083 11/28/12 02:37 PM 11/28/12 02:37 PM
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B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Quote: Congrats Josh and I'm sure you will help the reputation of dealing direct with Indy. Now I have an Indy block, heads, intake and even a BIG Indy sticker on my windshield so is there a sponorship coming my way (next item is changing Indy bathtub intake to Indy tunnelram) Oh and I'll also take a large pizza with pepperoni, sausage and mushrooms please Russ Russ,I asked for sausage also,Josh said he has no sausage only a small stick of pepperoni. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: B G Racing] #1342084 11/28/12 03:09 PM 11/28/12 03:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,917 A shed in England Tig master
Tig master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,917 A shed in England	Hi Josh. Good luck at Indy I've no complaints, sure the times I've spoken to the guys there it took some explaining but I just put that down to my accent I'll be buying some 600 -13 heads and a block soon '74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials. 9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge. RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: B G Racing] #1342085 11/28/12 04:32 PM 11/28/12 04:32 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,640 in a cattle trailer down by th... G Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music! G Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,640 in a cattle trailer down by th...	Quote: Quote: Congrats Josh and I'm sure you will help the reputation of dealing direct with Indy. Now I have an Indy block, heads, intake and even a BIG Indy sticker on my windshield so is there a sponorship coming my way (next item is changing Indy bathtub intake to Indy tunnelram) Oh and I'll also take a large pizza with pepperoni, sausage and mushrooms please Russ Russ,I asked for sausage also,Josh said he has no sausage only a small stick of pepperoni. NO SAUSAGE!!! "Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind" '92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost coming soon! 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Tig] #1342086 11/28/12 04:44 PM 11/28/12 04:44 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Hi Josh. Good luck at Indy I've no complaints, sure the times I've spoken to the guys there it took some explaining but I just put that down to my accent I'll be buying some 600 -13 heads and a block soon Your accent sounds just fine on the computer.. LOL Good luck with the new job Josh... hope it works out well for you and them both

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Guitar Jones] #1342087 11/28/12 04:47 PM 11/28/12 04:47 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	I have sausage, but I dare anyone to try to pull it from BAAAHHB Georges mouth

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342088 11/28/12 04:55 PM 11/28/12 04:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,920 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer Too Many Posts
tboomer Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,920 United Socialist States of Ame...	And just look for this gent as you walk into the door.. 7480306-randy.jpg (136 downloads) Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: tboomer] #1342089 11/28/12 07:48 PM 11/28/12 07:48 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop dustergirl340 Chicken Little
dustergirl340 Chicken Little Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop	Quote: And just look for this gent as you walk into the door.. snort a little too much hair there though.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: dustergirl340] #1342090 11/28/12 08:35 PM 11/28/12 08:35 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama M MRMOPAR622 top fuel
MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	With all that I have going on now(but what I have always wanted) I don't have time come on here much and after reading stuff like this can't understand why I miss it so much but I do. If you want a Fast Mopar you either buy Indy or B1 and you guys are trying to put Indy the one that's makes & offers the most parts of the two out of business! At the present if you want to run T/D,T/S or any thing similar you either have to run a chevy or ford engine.That right there is enough to make any grown men cry,they make more & better not to mention Bigger parts for fords than Mopars! If their is a good side to this,its the fact that you only have two to chose from.Unlike chevy everybody & their Brother makes parts for them their is 1,000 of choices,you buy the very latest & very best this week next week someone else has come out with something better. to everyone! Last edited by MRMOPAR622; 11/28/12 08:37 PM. "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342091 11/28/12 08:44 PM 11/28/12 08:44 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,553 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy I Live Here
fourgearsavoy I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,553 Rittman Ohio	Good luck Josh I was lucky enough to never deal with them directly so my Indy head head purchase was one of my most satisfying additions ever I really am disappointed that this has turned into another "Indy Bash" thread instead of a positive pat on the back for your new endeavor I will continue to deal with Nick though because I wouldn't think about bolting on a set of heads before he puts his hands on them Again good luck and nice meeting you a few times last summer Gus 7480546-mysavoy.jpg (52 downloads) 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1342092 11/28/12 08:58 PM 11/28/12 08:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	I'm glad to hear that. My job is to support distribution as much as anything. Distributors are our biggest asset.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342093 11/28/12 08:58 PM 11/28/12 08:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	And Nick is a great dude!!!!!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342094 11/28/12 10:33 PM 11/28/12 10:33 PM
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hudsonhornet7x pro stock H Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,541 USA	Josh, you have a pm. Thanks!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342095 11/28/12 10:56 PM 11/28/12 10:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	Quote: Dont worry guys. This isnt something that will be short lived, and I have spoke to Russ in length about what we need to do to create the image that is deserved.... Its not going to be nearly as hard as you guys may think... So Josh, did Russ trip, fall and crack his head on a hemi block?? every time I tried to talk to him about a specific product at any of the shows he ended up being a total azz,I finally gave up and went the direction that I did. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: dartman366] #1342096 11/28/12 11:06 PM 11/28/12 11:06 PM
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mshred master M Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,415 Toronto	Congrats Josh! And good luck over there I don't own anything Indy, but probably never will since the parts seem expensive and the amount of work it seems that has to go into them to get them to a useable state even more...what I hear about their customer service doesn't help either, but hopefully you can turn most of that negative view around

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: mshred] #1342097 11/29/12 12:12 AM 11/29/12 12:12 AM
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fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	Good luck Josh all we need is 100 more guys like yourself and mopar will lead again!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: bigtimeauto] #1342098 11/29/12 12:53 AM 11/29/12 12:53 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA 493_DART master
493_DART master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Good luck Josh. Sounds like you have your work cutout for you. As a bystander, here's what I see - 440source (and others) get bashed for quality-related stuff. Most of the angst is toward the parts, less so toward the employees. This thread, though, really shows where many folks loathe the people as much as the parts. So unless those people stay away from teh phones and sales counter, that'll be a tough turnaround. so all the people have to do is buy the parts from a indy dealer and get usa made parts and knowledgeable help. I bought my stuff from Pete at best machine and never had a issue. Not to mention I am helping keep america people working by BUYING parts MADE HERE not just sold here. I would buy all USA parts if they would LOWER THEIR F$%%# prices. Also-- Ive been beating on my 440 Source internals since 2007 with no issues--along with thousands of other racers.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: 493_DART] #1342099 11/29/12 02:23 AM 11/29/12 02:23 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 528 N.W. Indiana DblOJoe mopar
DblOJoe mopar Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 528 N.W. Indiana	Seems like they would just fix there quality issues and the customer service problem would take care of its self. If I could buy a set of heads from any company and truly run them out of the box without having to have any other machine work done or correct any problems then I'd only have to talk to them once.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: DblOJoe] #1342100 11/29/12 03:28 AM 11/29/12 03:28 AM
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FastOne pro stock F Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,420	After receiving the last set of 360-1's I have some rather harsh questions to ask, but I'll leave that to private communication if you don't mind

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: FastOne] #1342101 11/29/12 06:00 PM 11/29/12 06:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	josh@indyheads.com

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: DblOJoe] #1342102 11/29/12 06:00 PM 11/29/12 06:00 PM
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mshred master M Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,415 Toronto	Quote: Seems like they would just fix there quality issues and the customer service problem would take care of its self. If I could buy a set of heads from any company and truly run them out of the box without having to have any other machine work done or correct any problems then I'd only have to talk to them once. amen

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: mshred] #1342103 11/29/12 06:12 PM 11/29/12 06:12 PM
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one bad fish pro stock O Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,534 bronx n.y	good job josh

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: 493_DART] #1342104 11/29/12 06:26 PM 11/29/12 06:26 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma Big Squeeze pro stock
Big Squeeze pro stock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,491 Oologah, Oklahoma	Quote: I would buy all USA parts if they would LOWER THEIR F$%%# prices That's obviously coming from someone that has never tried to manufacture their own product.... That's easy to say....but it's harder to make a profit here in the US compared to other countries because of how high people believe their standard of living needs to be (employee pay) and meeting compliances.... If you can't handle the truth, you're living a lie.......

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Big Squeeze] #1342105 11/29/12 06:51 PM 11/29/12 06:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,420 F FastOne pro stock
FastOne pro stock F Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,420	Thanks Josh

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Big Squeeze] #1342106 11/30/12 12:06 AM 11/30/12 12:06 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida P Performance Only top fuel
Performance Only top fuel P Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida	Quote: Quote: I would buy all USA parts if they would LOWER THEIR F$%%# prices That's obviously coming from someone that has never tried to manufacture their own product.... That's easy to say....but it's harder to make a profit here in the US compared to other countries because of how high people believe their standard of living needs to be (employee pay) and meeting compliances.... Now that's a fact. I just had someone apply for the machinists position opening a couple days ago. On his application he noted his expected salary of 38.00 dollars an hour plus benefits. This happens to be a person with less than 3 years experience in this field. Back on topic. I'm sure Josh with be a pleasant person to discuss any issues with. What remains to be seen is how much leeway he'll have in resolving those issues. Last edited by Performance Only; 11/30/12 12:09 AM. machine shop owner and engine builder

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: 493_DART] #1342107 11/30/12 12:33 AM 11/30/12 12:33 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,128 Salt Lake City C camastomcat top fuel
camastomcat top fuel C Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,128 Salt Lake City	I would buy all USA parts if they would LOWER THEIR F$%%# prices. Also-- Ive been beating on my 440 Source internals since 2007 with no issues--along with thousands of other racers. These are the kinds of remarks that really pi$$ me off. Weekend warriors, 2 or 3 times a year. If you are happy using sub par crap for you 600HP time bomb, have fun till you drive over your crankshaft. It's the reason we don't have any decent representation for mopar "race parts". That's right "race parts". Some of us are serious people trying to make serious fields with very few options. Like I've always said, Mopar people have to be the tightest bunch I've ever been assotiated with. I'm not talking about the ones that race every weekend or try to actually win championships, they can't afford sub par parts. For this reason, those of us that compete for championships and run the fast brackets, are forced to buy GM stuff at a certain point. Support the US companies, or we will all be driving Chevies! Rant over!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: camastomcat] #1342108 11/30/12 12:50 AM 11/30/12 12:50 AM
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dennismopar73 top fuel D Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,177 ill	If you would look 440 source does use and have alot of parts pistons rods, rod bolts intakes that are made right here in the USA! go check it out ! before blasting!! just as any crank co some made here other made out side the USA !! http://store.440source.com/MADE-IN-USA/products/121/

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: dennismopar73] #1342109 11/30/12 01:21 AM 11/30/12 01:21 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,128 Salt Lake City C camastomcat top fuel
camastomcat top fuel C Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,128 Salt Lake City	Quote: If you would look 440 source does use and have alot of parts pistons rods, rod bolts intakes that are made right here in the USA! go check it out ! before blasting!! just as any crank co some made here other made out side the USA !! http://store.440source.com/MADE-IN-USA/products/121/ It's Chinese steel dude. Where its machined doesn't make it US made. Cranks, rods, cheap for a reason.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: camastomcat] #1342110 11/30/12 01:41 AM 11/30/12 01:41 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: I would buy all USA parts if they would LOWER THEIR F$%%# prices. Also-- Ive been beating on my 440 Source internals since 2007 with no issues--along with thousands of other racers. These are the kinds of remarks that really pi$$ me off. Weekend warriors, 2 or 3 times a year. If you are happy using sub par crap for you 600HP time bomb, have fun till you drive over your crankshaft. It's the reason we don't have any decent representation for mopar "race parts". That's right "race parts". Some of us are serious people trying to make serious fields with very few options. Like I've always said, Mopar people have to be the tightest bunch I've ever been assotiated with. I'm not talking about the ones that race every weekend or try to actually win championships, they can't afford sub par parts. For this reason, those of us that compete for championships and run the fast brackets, are forced to buy GM stuff at a certain point. Support the US companies, or we will all be driving Chevies! Rant over! Just curious but by buying "GM stuff" are you not agreeing with his remark regarding Mopar stuff. Again just curious.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: camastomcat] #1342111 11/30/12 02:17 AM 11/30/12 02:17 AM
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493_DART master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA	Quote: I would buy all USA parts if they would LOWER THEIR F$%%# prices. Also-- Ive been beating on my 440 Source internals since 2007 with no issues--along with thousands of other racers. These are the kinds of remarks that really pi$$ me off. Weekend warriors, 2 or 3 times a year. If you are happy using sub par crap for you 600HP time bomb, have fun till you drive over your crankshaft. It's the reason we don't have any decent representation for mopar "race parts". That's right "race parts". Some of us are serious people trying to make serious fields with very few options. Like I've always said, Mopar people have to be the tightest bunch I've ever been assotiated with. I'm not talking about the ones that race every weekend or try to actually win championships, they can't afford sub par parts. For this reason, those of us that compete for championships and run the fast brackets, are forced to buy GM stuff at a certain point. Support the US companies, or we will all be driving Chevies! Rant over! WOW----- get off your high horse there Richie Rich ! A LOT of us are "budget bracket racers" and dont have $$$ flying out of our arses like you for top quality parts. Weekend warrior ??? That describes 90 % of racers on here ! 2 or 3 times a year ??? Want to see all my log books ?? try 3 times a month . In fact--with my new job , i should be able to hit every weekend for points racing in 2013 . To "most" of us Lowly , stupid 600hp guys that drive junk---thats a serious racer . And MY 600hp "timebomb" is holding together GREAT ! I built it in my garage and I think I did a good job. I should dig out my log books and count the passes on this motor----it would make your delusional, patriotic head explode. Anyway--you better get back to your shop--im sure you are working on your Pro Stock engine this week .

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: 493_DART] #1342112 11/30/12 02:49 AM 11/30/12 02:49 AM
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Kevins493 top fuel Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,379 MD	The fact of the matter is its impossible to make the majority of products in America for the prices most Americans insist on paying. When you have to pay the employees more than $0.20 an hour, pay our federal and state taxes, deal with the tree huggers, maintain your equipment to the point that you can actually hold reasonable tolerances, use the actual alloys you advertise, hire people that can reliably perform a heat treating process, pay health insurance and benefits, take care of the environmental concerns (waste, etc.), pay for land here and energy costs here, the price tends to go up. Will that chinese crank survive in a 600-hp motor? You will most likely never have a problem. But the point is it's unreasonable to expect an American company to meet the same price point as a chinese one. Then again, its not hard to see where the best parts are most likely to be made.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: camastomcat] #1342113 11/30/12 06:39 AM 11/30/12 06:39 AM
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CokeBottleKid master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,180 Detroit, MI	Quote: Quote: If you would look 440 source does use and have alot of parts pistons rods, rod bolts intakes that are made right here in the USA! go check it out ! before blasting!! just as any crank co some made here other made out side the USA !! http://store.440source.com/MADE-IN-USA/products/121/ It's Chinese steel dude. Where its machined doesn't make it US made. Cranks, rods, cheap for a reason. Tell me friend, what brand are your crank and rods?

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: camastomcat] #1342114 11/30/12 09:15 AM 11/30/12 09:15 AM
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dennismopar73 top fuel D Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,177 ill	Quote: Quote: If you would look 440 source does use and have alot of parts pistons rods, rod bolts intakes that are made right here in the USA! go check it out ! before blasting!! just as any crank co some made here other made out side the USA !! http://store.440source.com/MADE-IN-USA/products/121/ It's Chinese steel dude. Where its machined doesn't make it US made. Cranks, rods, cheap for a reason. WOW,, Their rods / pistons/ rods / bolts,,Rings, many many other parts available thru them are made right here super dude!!! I have no idea about what crank co you use,?? odds are who really knows on some cranks? As for being cheap,, anyone can sell stuff as cheap as they want to, it all depends on how much of a mark-up is built into the product! Back on topic!!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: dennismopar73] #1342115 11/30/12 09:30 AM 11/30/12 09:30 AM
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540challenger master 5 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,826 NY usa	Myself i prefer to by american parts when I can, However when I spend cash on a American made product. That cost 2x as much as the chinese verison I expect it to be a quality piece, Which doesn't always happen.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Performance Only] #1342116 11/30/12 09:36 AM 11/30/12 09:36 AM
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an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,363 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Quote: I just had someone apply for the machinists position opening a couple days ago. On his application he noted his expected salary of 38.00 dollars an hour plus benefits. This happens to be a person with less than 3 years experience in this field. Holy crap, I'd move down there if you're paying anywhere close to that! I have 6 years of auto machine experience. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1342117 11/30/12 10:30 AM 11/30/12 10:30 AM
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camastomcat top fuel C Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,128 Salt Lake City	The cheaper 4340 steel crankshafts, rods, etc. area made in China. Where and how they are finished might be a different story. I started doing this stuff 25 years ago and have been gathering parts and trading stuff for years, I'm not what you would call "richy rich". But the real truth is, you can't expect people that have to pay employees and light bills, and health insurance, that buy quality parts, to sell gold for the price of silver. My point about GM stuff is, if you wanr less expensive quality race stuff, go GM. If we run all of the Mopar guys out of business, that will be our only option. If the 440 source stuff works, great. But don't compare that to Callies, Winberg, Oliver, GRP, etc, because there is no comparison. And if you continue to stand in line at Walmart, eventually Walmart will be the only place to shop. That's my point.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: camastomcat] #1342118 11/30/12 10:45 AM 11/30/12 10:45 AM
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MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	Quote: The cheaper 4340 steel crankshafts, rods, etc. area made in China. Where and how they are finished might be a different story. I started doing this stuff 25 years ago and have been gathering parts and trading stuff for years, I'm not what you would call "richy rich". But the real truth is, you can't expect people that have to pay employees and light bills, and health insurance, that buy quality parts, to sell gold for the price of silver. My point about GM stuff is, if you wanr less expensive quality race stuff, go GM. If we run all of the Mopar guys out of business, that will be our only option. If the 440 source stuff works, great. But don't compare that to Callies, Winberg, Oliver, GRP, etc, because there is no comparison. And if you continue to stand in line at Walmart, eventually Walmart will be the only place to shop. That's my point. I have to agree with Tom 100%!Now it seems strange that all of you that run the cheaper 600 hp parts..(and their is nothing wrong with that if thats what you chose to do)are the ones that bash Indy,B1 and anyone else that tries to step up and make some Hi-Quality parts.If you don't run them and don't plan to run them why bash them? And then to take offense to someone just making a statement about the cheap lower grade parts.Some of us who are not Rich work extra hours to have a little extra $$$ to put into our race cars. "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: camastomcat] #1342119 11/30/12 10:45 AM 11/30/12 10:45 AM
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BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Wow, I can see this well-intentioned thread just got derailed over another beat-to-death subject that's been brought up here frequently over the years. Good luck to Josh in his new position. Like others have expressed, I'm sure there will be challenges to overcome and, hopefully, opportunities to make positive changes to ICH (not just band-aid the issues).

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1342120 11/30/12 11:02 AM 11/30/12 11:02 AM
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Performance Only top fuel P Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida	Quote: Quote: I just had someone apply for the machinists position opening a couple days ago. On his application he noted his expected salary of 38.00 dollars an hour plus benefits. This happens to be a person with less than 3 years experience in this field. Holy crap, I'd move down there if you're paying anywhere close to that! I have 6 years of auto machine experience. Chip, I know the last two places he worked at and i know for a fact his pay was not over 14.00 an hour in either shop. He could've come in and made "alittle" better money to start and been in a nicer environment with up to date equipment, (something he knew very little about by the way) but he already had the attitude that if i didn't hire him i must be an idiot. Hmmm, I don't think i'm an idiot, nor do i think i'll hire a guy with that kind of attitude anyway. Hey, I meant to ask you; did you get that box i sent out in time? As far as the offshore vs. USA made stuff, we sell both and i see the need for both in this hobby, especially in our current economic climate. I hope we can put some Americans back to work in manufacturing to make our choices an easier decision. machine shop owner and engine builder

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: BradH] #1342121 11/30/12 11:05 AM 11/30/12 11:05 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	So will Joshking440 be able to fix ridiculous shipping charges from Indy or is he just going to be a puppet,Who will be used as a whipping Post? Indy charges drop ship fees as well as ridiculous shipping charges to really put salt in the wound. Personally I don't see the realtionship lasting since Russ Flagle is a complete pompous azz who's as narcisistic as Napolean Bonaparte.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: camastomcat] #1342122 11/30/12 11:38 AM 11/30/12 11:38 AM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: And if you continue to stand in line at Walmart, eventually Walmart will be the only place to shop. That's my point. exactly! BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: bigtimeauto] #1342123 11/30/12 11:55 AM 11/30/12 11:55 AM
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justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	Good luck Josh , but I'm afraid you have a tough row to hoe.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: justinp61] #1342124 11/30/12 12:31 PM 11/30/12 12:31 PM
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1969RR super stock 1 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 740 Anderson, IN	What happened to Jim ( I think that was his name)that worked the counter? I dealt with him after Russ told me I was wasting his time (exact words!) Jim was better, but not by much. I did buy a set of EZ's but had 5K in my pocket to buy one of their stroker kits. Went else where to buy the kit. Jeff

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads #1342125 11/30/12 01:00 PM 11/30/12 01:00 PM
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actionange top fuel A Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,627 anywhere@ anytime	Quote: So will Joshking440 be able to fix ridiculous shipping charges from Indy or is he just going to be a puppet,Who will be used as a whipping Post? Indy charges drop ship fees as well as ridiculous shipping charges to really put salt in the wound. Personally I don't see the realtionship lasting since Russ Flagle is a complete pompous azz who's as narcisistic as Napolean Bonaparte. He'll do as he's told by his superiors and possibly suggest and interject ideas as he see's fit as he becomes comfortable in his role. As Indy signs his paycheck he can't be reinventing the wheel- he's playing in their sandbox and has to follow their rules/ direction. Just my

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: actionange] #1342126 11/30/12 01:26 PM 11/30/12 01:26 PM
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MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	After Josh coming on here offering to HELP everyone,when you call Indy and speak with Josh if he has a Bad Attitude I wonder who will be the blame for it? I have brought & spent a lot of $$$ with Indy never had a problem with them,even talk to Russ one time when I need information the person on the phone could not help me with. I know everyone on here is Good People maybe some times we just have the wrong attitude when we call Indy because we are having problems with our Race-Cars and take it out on them....if you don't believe me you can call home and ask my Wife if a sales person is rude to me its just not going to be a Good day for them. "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1342127 11/30/12 01:48 PM 11/30/12 01:48 PM
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camastomcat top fuel C Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,128 Salt Lake City	Quote: After Josh coming on here offering to HELP everyone,when you call Indy and speak with Josh if he has a Bad Attitude I wonder who will be the blame for it? I have brought & spent a lot of $$$ with Indy never had a problem with them,even talk to Russ one time when I need information the person on the phone could not help me with. I know everyone on here is Good People maybe some times we just have the wrong attitude when we call Indy because we are having problems with our Race-Cars and take it out on them....if you don't believe me you can call home and ask my Wife if a sales person is rude to me its just not going to be a Good day for them. This could be true if it didn't happen so much. You have done well with their products and obviously have a better report with them. But, as others have said, call Predator, Bob George, Marsh, or others for stuff. They will take care of you. I think even Josh, since he has the patience of a saint, IMO, (Mopar Madness) might be able to do some good with these guys. Cause the stuff they sell is good. And even I would like to be sure they stay around. Let them do what they do....make Mopar quality parts and Josh can hopefully bridge the gap in tech service!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: camastomcat] #1342128 11/30/12 02:12 PM 11/30/12 02:12 PM
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Abodyjohn88 member A Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 180 long island newyork	Good luck to both you and Indy josh!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: actionange] #1342129 11/30/12 02:22 PM 11/30/12 02:22 PM
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S/ST 3040 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere	Quote: Quote: So will Joshking440 be able to fix ridiculous shipping charges from Indy or is he just going to be a puppet,Who will be used as a whipping Post? Indy charges drop ship fees as well as ridiculous shipping charges to really put salt in the wound. Personally I don't see the realtionship lasting since Russ Flagle is a complete pompous azz who's as narcisistic as Napolean Bonaparte. He'll do as he's told by his superiors and possibly suggest and interject ideas as he see's fit as he becomes comfortable in his role. As Indy signs his paycheck he can't be reinventing the wheel- he's playing in their sandbox and has to follow their rules/ direction. Just my Josh, I have a few suggestions. I'll wait until the next time I talk to you though. I don't think people are giving the "puppet" enough credit.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: camastomcat] #1342130 11/30/12 02:34 PM 11/30/12 02:34 PM
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MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	Quote: Quote: After Josh coming on here offering to HELP everyone,when you call Indy and speak with Josh if he has a Bad Attitude I wonder who will be the blame for it? I have brought & spent a lot of $$$ with Indy never had a problem with them,even talk to Russ one time when I need information the person on the phone could not help me with. I know everyone on here is Good People maybe some times we just have the wrong attitude when we call Indy because we are having problems with our Race-Cars and take it out on them....if you don't believe me you can call home and ask my Wife if a sales person is rude to me its just not going to be a Good day for them. This could be true if it didn't happen so much. You have done well with their products and obviously have a better report with them. But, as others have said, call Predator, Bob George, Marsh, or others for stuff. They will take care of you. I think even Josh, since he has the patience of a saint, IMO, (Mopar Madness) might be able to do some good with these guys. Cause the stuff they sell is good. And even I would like to be sure they stay around. Let them do what they do....make Mopar quality parts and Josh can hopefully bridge the gap in tech service! Again Tom you are are close to 100% right If any of you Mopar people have not talk to or done business with Performance Only be it Indy or B1 you might want too,One of the few Good Guys From Mopar! That's who I would now be using if not for needing Sponsorship $$$(more are less be on & help with the race cars)and having to go over to "The Dark Side" in order to get it. If their is a "Bright Side"and their is to the "Dark Side" you get a Head Ache with all the Millions of Hi Quality race parts!Believe me when I say this US true Mopar Racers deserve the same & should have the same,but don't! "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1342131 11/30/12 03:47 PM 11/30/12 03:47 PM
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jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	got your bucket? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGfXiIXTpE0 but seriously Josh hope it works out well for both you and indy

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: S/ST 3040] #1342132 11/30/12 04:46 PM 11/30/12 04:46 PM
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actionange top fuel A Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,627 anywhere@ anytime	Quote: Quote: Quote: So will Joshking440 be able to fix ridiculous shipping charges from Indy or is he just going to be a puppet,Who will be used as a whipping Post? Indy charges drop ship fees as well as ridiculous shipping charges to really put salt in the wound. Personally I don't see the realtionship lasting since Russ Flagle is a complete pompous azz who's as narcisistic as Napolean Bonaparte. He'll do as he's told by his superiors and possibly suggest and interject ideas as he see's fit as he becomes comfortable in his role. As Indy signs his paycheck he can't be reinventing the wheel- he's playing in their sandbox and has to follow their rules/ direction. Just my Josh, I have a few suggestions. I'll wait until the next time I talk to you though. I don't think people are giving the "puppet" enough credit. Never said he was a "puppet" but my life experience says that unless he's a partner in the business, he's not gonna come in and re-invent the wheel at Indy. At least not right away... I use Indy products so far with no issues. I've used their email tech line for questions also with no problems and quick answers.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads #1342133 11/30/12 06:36 PM 11/30/12 06:36 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy J joshking440 OP Lunch is on me!
joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Quote: So will Joshking440 be able to fix ridiculous shipping charges from Indy or is he just going to be a puppet,Who will be used as a whipping Post? Indy charges drop ship fees as well as ridiculous shipping charges to really put salt in the wound. Personally I don't see the realtionship lasting since Russ Flagle is a complete pompous azz who's as narcisistic as Napolean Bonaparte. Well I dont find your name in the system as to justify your shipping charges.... Ive searched all people with the name Ghandi

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342134 11/30/12 06:55 PM 11/30/12 06:55 PM
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J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,189 aZLiViN	good luck with your new job! Looks like it's already keeping you busy!!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342135 12/02/12 10:03 AM 12/02/12 10:03 AM
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joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Quote: Quote: So will Joshking440 be able to fix ridiculous shipping charges from Indy or is he just going to be a puppet,Who will be used as a whipping Post? Indy charges drop ship fees as well as ridiculous shipping charges to really put salt in the wound. Personally I don't see the realtionship lasting since Russ Flagle is a complete pompous azz who's as narcisistic as Napolean Bonaparte. Well I dont find your name in the system as to justify your shipping charges.... Ive searched all people with the name Ghandi Ohhhhh gghhaannddii Where are you, I want to see what shipping charges were in our system so I can fix it.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342136 12/02/12 10:33 AM 12/02/12 10:33 AM
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coronetville mopar C Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 621 Iowa	Why not just do not buy anything from them, end of story!

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342137 12/02/12 11:06 AM 12/02/12 11:06 AM
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EchoSixMike mopar E Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 490 IL	Quote: Well I dont find your name in the system as to justify your shipping charges.... Ive searched all people with the name Ghandi Ohhhhh gghhaannddii Where are you, I want to see what shipping charges were in our system so I can fix it. He's in Flint MI and it's the weekend so he's probably out dodging gunfire or something S/F....Ken M

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: coronetville] #1342138 12/02/12 11:20 AM 12/02/12 11:20 AM
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joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Quote: Why not just do not buy anything from them, end of story! Then we can all use Chinese pro comp and 440 source heads forever. Indy has some changes to make.... And I will be making them.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342139 12/02/12 11:38 AM 12/02/12 11:38 AM
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dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	Some of you guys need to lighten up. Here someone is trying to make some positive changes and all you can do is bring up the past. There is nothing Josh can do about the past, that is done and gone. How about making some positive comments and sugestions that might improve products and service for all of us rather than wallowing in the past and running past problems into the ground. My guess is half the bitchers have never even bought anything from Indy. How bout lets move forward. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: dannysbee] #1342140 12/02/12 11:44 AM 12/02/12 11:44 AM
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MPerry Mopahts memba' Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,657 Fitchburg,Massachusetts	I took a chance once and didn't have any issues. Good Luck Josh.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: EchoSixMike] #1342141 12/02/12 11:57 AM 12/02/12 11:57 AM
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joshking440 OP Lunch is on me! J Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,590 Indy	Quote: Quote: Well I dont find your name in the system as to justify your shipping charges.... Ive searched all people with the name Ghandi Ohhhhh gghhaannddii Where are you, I want to see what shipping charges were in our system so I can fix it. He's in Flint MI and it's the weekend so he's probably out dodging gunfire or something S/F....Ken M Im guessing he isn't in Flint....Im guessing he is out east somewhere....

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: dannysbee] #1342142 12/02/12 12:31 PM 12/02/12 12:31 PM
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unknown mopar U Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 622 sing sing	Quote: Some of you guys need to lighten up. Here someone is trying to make some positive changes and all you can do is bring up the past. There is nothing Josh can do about the past, that is done and gone. How about making some positive comments and sugestions that might improve products and service for all of us rather than wallowing in the past and running past problems into the ground. My guess is half the bitchers have never even bought anything from Indy. How bout lets move forward. Well said!! I must be a lucky one, I never had a problem with Indy parts.Time to lighten up and move forward. Maybe we will see a new 4.9 or 5" bore center Indy Max block and heads that flow over 600 cfm.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: unknown] #1342143 12/02/12 12:51 PM 12/02/12 12:51 PM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	there would be a lot less fast mopars out there if indy said screw it and closed their doors. Like i said before, I will buy indy parts but i will not buy them from them. Not to mention the dealers sell the indy parts for less SO WHY ON EARTH are you guys trying to buy direct and talk to the owner all of the time???? BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342144 12/02/12 12:55 PM 12/02/12 12:55 PM
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MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	Quote: Quote: Quote: Well I dont find your name in the system as to justify your shipping charges.... Ive searched all people with the name Ghandi Ohhhhh gghhaannddii Where are you, I want to see what shipping charges were in our system so I can fix it. He's in Flint MI and it's the weekend so he's probably out dodging gunfire or something S/F....Ken M Im guessing he isn't in Flint....Im guessing he is out east somewhere.... NO,NO Josh,The only thing us people over here on the East Coast Love more than Indy is BAMA Foot-Ball! For real I buy & use Indy products because they work better for me,might be because all the rest of the Fast Mopars around here run Indy.We know how to make the Indy engines run,but have no luck with the B1.If I can afford to buy Indy I can afford to buy B1,I buy Indy because thats what I think is Best.But you can go back & search all these post and won't find one time that I ever Bashed B1.Now I have called out some of the B1 people that thought their B1 stuff was so much better & Faster than Indy which I took as bashing my car.BUT NO ONE EVER TOOK ME UP ON IT! You will make a Great Rep. for Indy and even greater person for us Indy users! Just don't let the ones who don't like Indy turn you against the Loyal Indy customers! Last edited by MRMOPAR622; 12/02/12 12:57 PM. "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: bigtimeauto] #1342145 12/02/12 02:13 PM 12/02/12 02:13 PM
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Charger453 super stock C Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 867 Bellevue, NE	Quote: there would be a lot less fast mopars out there if indy said screw it and closed their doors. Like i said before, I will buy indy parts but i will not buy them from them. Not to mention the dealers sell the indy parts for less SO WHY ON EARTH are you guys trying to buy direct and talk to the owner all of the time???? Amen. I've never bought anything INDY but I'm possibly looking at changing my RPM's this winter. Indy stuff works and that's proven but the recommendation for YEARS has been to go thru a dealer. Not sure how anyone could miss that if they do their research.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1342146 12/02/12 02:22 PM 12/02/12 02:22 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Being someone who has delt with both Indy and Josh,I can only state the fact that I can't complain or say anything disrespectful about either.I have always been treated with professionalism and respect.Our business is centered around Indy for over 13 years and have never had an issue than wasn't resolved amicable,my experience with Josh has been second to none.With an Indy/Josh collaboration I can only expect good things and will certainly continue my relationship with both. The best advise I can give is let's help ourselves buy supporting Josh in his new undertaking. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Charger453] #1342147 12/02/12 02:40 PM 12/02/12 02:40 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 831 Missouri G galen super stock
galen super stock G Joined: May 2009 Posts: 831 Missouri	It's not rocket science people. If you don't want to buy direct then go through a dealer. That way you never have to deal with them direct. I use Best Machine and my parts are exactly what I order. A lot of good dealers out there, better price, better service, and they need your business. I had a bad dealing once with buying direct from Indy, that was my fault. If I had read a little on here first I would have known not to deal direct. We have a man here that wants to try and make a difference, So instead of trying to support him and wishing him luck on his new job, Lets dig up some old dirt and beat on this rotting carcass of a horse some more.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342148 12/10/12 12:34 AM 12/10/12 12:34 AM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 102 richmond indiana I ichsam member
ichsam member I Joined: May 2007 Posts: 102 richmond indiana	From what i have heard you just may be the man for that job. I wish you luck. To all my old customers /friends, Bob, Mike,Todd,Nick etc..A big hello.. Iam doing great and hope all of you are as well. Sam Wilson

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: ichsam] #1342149 12/10/12 12:48 AM 12/10/12 12:48 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,099 Rogue River, OR Jeremiah master
Jeremiah master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,099 Rogue River, OR	I took a chance and called Indy to order a rocker stud kit and they were cool. I asked a question and the fellow on the other end said "hold on I need to pull one from the warehouse" and got me the info. My experience was pleasant.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: ichsam] #1342150 12/10/12 08:30 AM 12/10/12 08:30 AM
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B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Quote: From what i have heard you just may be the man for that job. I wish you luck. To all my old customers /friends, Bob, Mike,Todd,Nick etc..A big hello.. Iam doing great and hope all of you are as well. Sam Wilson Sam.it's great hearing from you.It was great seeing you this past year.I want to say that you were one of the main reasons we are an Indy dealer today.You have and always will be respected on a personal and professional level from myself and everyone at BGR. Let's hope Josh and BGR can have the same relationship. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440] #1342151 12/10/12 10:15 AM 12/10/12 10:15 AM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,607 KYbywayof WV F Frito top fuel
Frito top fuel F Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,607 KYbywayof WV	Quote: Quote: So will Joshking440 be able to fix ridiculous shipping charges from Indy or is he just going to be a puppet,Who will be used as a whipping Post? Indy charges drop ship fees as well as ridiculous shipping charges to really put salt in the wound. Personally I don't see the realtionship lasting since Russ Flagle is a complete pompous azz who's as narcisistic as Napolean Bonaparte. Well I dont find your name in the system as to justify your shipping charges.... Ive searched all people with the name Ghandi This is starting to get real entertaining.

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Frito] #1342152 12/10/12 10:58 AM 12/10/12 10:58 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	[IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: dannysbee] #1342153 12/10/12 01:42 PM 12/10/12 01:42 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,973 SoCal J jake4cars top fuel
jake4cars top fuel J Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,973 SoCal	Quote: Some of you guys need to lighten up. Here someone is trying to make some positive changes and all you can do is bring up the past. There is nothing Josh can do about the past, that is done and gone. How about making some positive comments and sugestions that might improve products and service for all of us rather than wallowing in the past and running past problems into the ground. My guess is half the bitchers have never even bought anything from Indy. How bout lets move forward. Indy's problem's are well documentated, give Josh a chance to right the ship, I must say I am doubtful of his chances but I wish him the best of luck! Joey

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: jake4cars] #1342154 12/10/12 04:20 PM 12/10/12 04:20 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,780 Alabama Mopar-Al master
Mopar-Al master Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,780 Alabama	Quote: Quote: Some of you guys need to lighten up. Here someone is trying to make some positive changes and all you can do is bring up the past. There is nothing Josh can do about the past, that is done and gone. How about making some positive comments and sugestions that might improve products and service for all of us rather than wallowing in the past and running past problems into the ground. My guess is half the bitchers have never even bought anything from Indy. How bout lets move forward. Indy's problem's are well documentated, give Josh a chance to right the ship, I must say I am doubtful of his chances but I wish him the best of luck! Joey He could start in the General section now. A guy bashing and even commenting about Josh

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Mopar-Al] #1342155 12/10/12 04:24 PM 12/10/12 04:24 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Some of you guys need to lighten up. Here someone is trying to make some positive changes and all you can do is bring up the past. There is nothing Josh can do about the past, that is done and gone. How about making some positive comments and sugestions that might improve products and service for all of us rather than wallowing in the past and running past problems into the ground. My guess is half the bitchers have never even bought anything from Indy. How bout lets move forward. Indy's problem's are well documentated, give Josh a chance to right the ship, I must say I am doubtful of his chances but I wish him the best of luck! Joey He could start in the General section now. A guy bashing and even commenting about Josh Ops,my bad,Thought it said gay bashing,so forget it. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: B G Racing] #1342156 12/10/12 04:36 PM 12/10/12 04:36 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,780 Alabama Mopar-Al master
Mopar-Al master Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,780 Alabama	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Some of you guys need to lighten up. Here someone is trying to make some positive changes and all you can do is bring up the past. There is nothing Josh can do about the past, that is done and gone. How about making some positive comments and sugestions that might improve products and service for all of us rather than wallowing in the past and running past problems into the ground. My guess is half the bitchers have never even bought anything from Indy. How bout lets move forward. Indy's problem's are well documentated, give Josh a chance to right the ship, I must say I am doubtful of his chances but I wish him the best of luck! Joey He could start in the General section now. A guy bashing and even commenting about Josh Ops,my bad,Thought it said gay bashing,so forget it. No no , not gay bashing, not happy bashing, just an angry guy Indy bashing, then driving away again with his Indy parts re installed. Seeing the post, and what he has posted on other sites, Josh will have to deal with a lot of charactors. Yeah Bob, maybe even a mad gay guy driving a muscle car....oh my the Whorer stories. Did I spell that right

Re: Change at Indy Cylinder Heads [Re: Mopar-Al] #1342157 12/10/12 08:46 PM 12/10/12 08:46 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Some of you guys need to lighten up. Here someone is trying to make some positive changes and all you can do is bring up the past. There is nothing Josh can do about the past, that is done and gone. How about making some positive comments and sugestions that might improve products and service for all of us rather than wallowing in the past and running past problems into the ground. My guess is half the bitchers have never even bought anything from Indy. How bout lets move forward. Indy's problem's are well documentated, give Josh a chance to right the ship, I must say I am doubtful of his chances but I wish him the best of luck! Joey He could start in the General section now. A guy bashing and even commenting about Josh Ops,my bad,Thought it said gay bashing,so forget it. No no , not gay bashing, not happy bashing, just an angry guy Indy bashing, then driving away again with his Indy parts re installed. Seeing the post, and what he has posted on other sites, Josh will have to deal with a lot of charactors. Yeah Bob, maybe even a mad gay guy driving a muscle car....oh my the Whorer stories. Did I spell that right Reeden,spllen and rithmatic are for the bygone days of yesteryears,today we have "texting"do yu no wat im sa en? [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

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