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100 hp up garde Ray Barton/mopar crate Hemi #1299274 09/07/12 05:20 PM 09/07/12 05:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 73 Toronto,Canada W wkeggenhoff OP member
wkeggenhoff OP member W Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 73 Toronto,Canada	Anyone buy there new cam they have ? 2 versions 50 hp flat tappet cam and lifters 100 hp flat tappet, cam, lifters springs retainers, etc Bolt in using same pushrods from the hyd cam. Both streetable 69 dodge charger,528 Hemi,Keisler TKO 5spd, Mosier 60 rear end

Re: 100 hp up garde Ray Barton/mopar crate Hemi [Re: wkeggenhoff] #1299275 09/10/12 08:20 AM 09/10/12 08:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,108 Chicago Blackhawks H hemicar1971 master
hemicar1971 master H Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,108 Chicago Blackhawks	Ray Barton would just ask one the the Cam makers to make a cam to the specs he has choosen. Since it says you live in Toronto, why not pick up the phone and call Tim Banning of FHO, for hemis only and talk to him 1-905-797-2459. He lives in Bewdley Ontario on Rice Lake just north of Port Hope Ontario so your drive to his shop is relatively short. 1971 HEMI E BODY REGISTRY

Re: 100 hp up garde Ray Barton/mopar crate Hemi [Re: hemicar1971] #1299276 09/10/12 09:51 PM 09/10/12 09:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada R RUNCHARGER I Live Here
RUNCHARGER I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada	I agree: You'd be crazy NOT to call Tim at FHO. Sheldon

Re: 100 hp up garde Ray Barton/mopar crate Hemi [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1299277 09/11/12 11:46 AM 09/11/12 11:46 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,943 GA roadrunninMark master
roadrunninMark master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,943 GA	Are the factory cams in the new hemi not rollers? If they are, are they hydraulic rollers? I don't know why someone would want to switch back to a flat tappet or solid roller, unless they are making a race engine.

Re: 100 hp up garde Ray Barton/mopar crate Hemi [Re: roadrunninMark] #1299278 09/11/12 01:53 PM 09/11/12 01:53 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,393 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,393 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: Are the factory cams in the new hemi not rollers? If they are, are they hydraulic rollers? I don't know why someone would want to switch back to a flat tappet or solid roller, unless they are making a race engine. I switched from a solid roller back to a flat tappet cam...Easier on parts. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: 100 hp up garde Ray Barton/mopar crate Hemi [Re: Dragula] #1299279 09/11/12 07:51 PM 09/11/12 07:51 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,943 GA roadrunninMark master
roadrunninMark master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,943 GA	I agree Dragula. What is the factory cam in the new gen 3?

Re: 100 hp up garde Ray Barton/mopar crate Hemi [Re: roadrunninMark] #1299280 09/11/12 07:56 PM 09/11/12 07:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	Quote: I agree Dragula. What is the factory cam in the new gen 3? Hyd Roller -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: 100 hp up garde Ray Barton/mopar crate Hemi [Re: Triple Threat] #1299281 09/11/12 07:58 PM 09/11/12 07:58 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,943 GA roadrunninMark master
roadrunninMark master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,943 GA	Thanks Dustin, that is what I thought it was. I don't know why they won't make the new cams hyd. rollers then, be cheaper to reuse the lifters and not have the friction of a flat tappet?

Re: 100 hp up garde Ray Barton/mopar crate Hemi [Re: roadrunninMark] #1299282 09/13/12 11:30 AM 09/13/12 11:30 AM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 73 Toronto,Canada W wkeggenhoff OP member
wkeggenhoff OP member W Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 73 Toronto,Canada	AS FAR AS I KNOW THE RAY BARTON/MOPAR HEMIS USE ROLLER ROCKERS ONLY. IT CURRENTLY HAS A REG. HYD CAM IN NOW.TALLKED TO TIM BEFORE (FHO), HE SAYS I COULD USE A SOLID ROLLER FOR STREET, WOULD LIVE AS LONG AS SPRING PRESSURE KEPT IN CHECK. HEARD A LOT OF BAD FEED BACK ON SOLID ROLLERS CRAPPING OUT ON STREET( LACK OF LUBE AT IDLE WAS TOLD) TYIM SYAS ENGINE WOULD HAVE TO COME APRAT AND HAVE MACHINE WORK DONE IN ORDER TO INSTALL A HYD. ROLLER CAM(NEED MORE CLEARANCE IN LIFTER AREA FOR HYD ROLLER LIFTERS) 69 dodge charger,528 Hemi,Keisler TKO 5spd, Mosier 60 rear end

Re: 100 hp up garde Ray Barton/mopar crate Hemi [Re: wkeggenhoff] #1299283 09/13/12 09:36 PM 09/13/12 09:36 PM
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HemiRick master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,848 Memphis	oiling at idle NOT a problem if you get solid roller lifters that oil the rollers and while you're at it convert to pushrod oiling too. A solid roller will work fine on the street with these parts. Take care, Rick 68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451

Re: 100 hp up garde Ray Barton/mopar crate Hemi [Re: HemiRick] #1299284 09/13/12 10:37 PM 09/13/12 10:37 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,393 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,393 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: oiling at idle NOT a problem if you get solid roller lifters that oil the rollers and while you're at it convert to pushrod oiling too. A solid roller will work fine on the street with these parts. Solid rollers are great when everything is mild....When you want to really wick it up though and still street it, your asking for issues. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: 100 hp up garde Ray Barton/mopar crate Hemi [Re: Dragula] #1299285 09/13/12 11:08 PM 09/13/12 11:08 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,848 Memphis HemiRick master
HemiRick master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,848 Memphis	Quote: Solid rollers are great when everything is mild... He only needs a mild solid roller for the 100 HP he wants. Get the Hemi book by Rich Nedbal. Take care, Rick 68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451

Re: 100 hp up garde Ray Barton/mopar crate Hemi [Re: HemiRick] #1299286 09/14/12 07:52 AM 09/14/12 07:52 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,393 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,393 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: Quote: Solid rollers are great when everything is mild... He only needs a mild solid roller for the 100 HP he wants. Get the Hemi book by Rich Nedbal. Not worth the money or the trouble...Barton will even tell you that with all the chinese crap out there right now. So unless you need a roller, its just money.... Sell you my old street cam and lifters..... Last edited by Dragula; 09/14/12 01:34 PM. '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

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