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check this one wire alternator out for me #1277253
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I just got back from Autozone for a warranty on my "one wire" alternator and after talking with the counter guy I left feeling I had it not hooked up right. I was looking at the attached paperwork for the replacement unit and it shows two male outlets where a wire harness plugged into it and states that the unit will possibly not work without these hooked up. I assume its a voltage input after looking at the attached diagram. Somebody give me some insight if I need these hooked up or if I can truly have it a one wire hook-up, going to a big race this weekend and dont want to lose first round from a dead battery!

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Re: check this one wire alternator out for me [Re: turner] #1277254
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Here is an actual pic of the alternator mounted in my car, I was thinking about connecting the #2 terminal on the alt. to the output lug just as it shows in the pic.......although the instructions say go to the + battery terminal


havent yet decided what to do with the #1 lug on the alt., I considered connecting it to the starter relay lug, when I hit my on/off switch at the back of the car the starter relay turns "hot"

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Re: check this one wire alternator out for me [Re: turner] #1277255
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<<snip>>.......although the instructions say go to the + battery terminal




If that other wire goes directly to the battery, connect #2 to that same post, it's the same as connecting to the the + terminal.

Even better actually since you're keeping that wire nice and short.


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Re: check this one wire alternator out for me [Re: turner] #1277256
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Here is an actual pic of the alternator mounted in my car, I was thinking about connecting the #2 terminal on the alt. to the output lug just as it shows in the pic.......although the instructions say go to the + battery terminal


havent yet decided what to do with the #1 lug on the alt., I considered connecting it to the starter relay lug, when I hit my on/off switch at the back of the car the starter relay turns "hot"




The wire you want to hook up to the power OUT I wouldnt
mount there(it will have a high voltage reading that
ISNT what the battery will be).... move it farther
away... thats the sense wire... the one you dont
have a wire on is the 12v to trigger the alt

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I understand what your saying....when the alt does send amperage it will also be sending full charging amps right through that wire directly back to the "sense" wire...I was told 63 amps worth is that correct to think that............but on the other hand wont it be getting the same amps sent to it if it was connected at the batt., albeit further away...20 feet there and back really

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I understand what your saying....when the alt does send amperage it will also be sending full charging amps right through that wire directly back to the "sense" wire...I was told 63 amps worth is that correct to think that............but on the other hand wont it be getting the same amps sent to it if it was connected at the batt., albeit further away...20 feet there and back really




No... if you pick up the reading right at the out put
will be seeing about 14.5 volts... now the alt thinks
the battery is 14.5 volts and reduces the output so
you could end up with about 2 or more volts low at
the battery... I have a solenoid to turn on alot
of stuff in the engine compartment and I take that
voltage to sense with is sorta low after the solenoid
that gives me 14.8 volts at the battery

Re: check this one wire alternator out for me [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1277259
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That is not a one wire alt. That looks just like a standard GM alt with an internal voltage regulator. The only wire a one wire alt needs is the 12 volt output wire. The wire they tell you to hook a resister to is normaly ign voltage from the ign switch. It uses the voltage flow on a stock GM that goes thru the alt lite on the dash and a resister in parellel with the lite to exite the field when it starts. The other small terminal #2 should nbe 12 volts at all times. A one wire alt self exites the field when it starts turning and uses the alt output volts to set the internal regulator volts also. If you use it I would just hook the small wire #1 up to ign voltage and use a voltmeter in the car to monitor charging volts. If you hook the small wire # 1 to 12 volts hot you will drain the battery with the key off as it will be feeding the alt field with the key off. Or as Mr P says you could use a solenoid to kill both with the key off and then you could hook the small wire to battery volts. Ron

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Thanks for the feedback...........If I get what your saying right, sounds like I can hook both wires to the starter relay. I have an Autometer volt gauge, where should I hook this up in this system, I currently have it tapped into one of the starter relay wires and it shows the low voltage. I was only reading 11 volts on the gauge and when I turned the car off, sure enough it was right, and I didnt have enough battery to crank my car over.......so that sounds like a good spot to read the low voltage



wire #1 to the starter relay
wire#2 through a fuse to my autometer gauge then to the gauge and my relay.....basically just a fused source?

Re: check this one wire alternator out for me [Re: turner] #1277261
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Thanks for the feedback...........If I get what your saying right, sounds like I can hook both wires to the starter relay. I have an Autometer volt gauge, where should I hook this up in this system, I currently have it tapped into one of the starter relay wires and it shows the low voltage. I was only reading 11 volts on the gauge and when I turned the car off, sure enough it was right, and I didnt have enough battery to crank my car over.......so that sounds like a good spot to read the low voltage



wire #1 to the starter relay
wire#2 through a fuse to my autometer gauge then to the gauge and my relay.....basically just a fused source?





Actually its been many years since I worked on GM alternators so I dont want to misslead you. But the Bat terminal of course is 12 volts at all times as thats the output wire which should be about 10 gauge. The #1 terminal is the ign switch feed from the ign switch which goes thru the alt ind lite on a stock factory car. Terminal #2 needs to be battery 12 volts also that can be hot at all times. Terminal #1 is the one you do not want to have hot at all times as thats the one that powers the field when the car starts. It only needs voltage when the key is turned on as it would drain the battery if it is hot at all times. So you could use a jumper wire from the hot battery output terminal on the alt to the hot #2 terminal as they are both hot with the key off. #1 must come from a key on source. Ron

I went back and edited my first post as I had a mistake in it and wanted to correct it.

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