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727 Governor selection ? #1242801 05/31/12 01:41 PM 05/31/12 01:41 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 146 florida/ Georgia T Tom Fox OP member
Tom Fox OP member T Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 146 florida/ Georgia	O.K. Building A 727, Using The Best/Heaviest Duty Parts From My Stash Of Cores.Is There A BEST Governor To Look For To Obtain A Higher Shift Point In W.O.T?

Re: 727 Governor selection ? [Re: Tom Fox] #1242802 05/31/12 05:33 PM 05/31/12 05:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,881 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,881 Rio Linda, CA	Depends on how high you want the shift point. It is possible to get a combination of governor parts that won't allow a shift before the engine's rpm limit..AMHIK. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: 727 Governor selection ? [Re: Tom Fox] #1242803 05/31/12 09:31 PM 05/31/12 09:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,160 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,160 Benton, IL.	How high of a shift point are you looking for? A&A's governors have always worked well for me. Although there is usually a split between the 1-2 and the 2-3 shifts. Master, again and still

Re: 727 Governor selection ? [Re: Tom Fox] #1242804 05/31/12 09:46 PM 05/31/12 09:46 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,853 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,853 MI, usa	Quote: O.K. Building A 727, Using The Best/Heaviest Duty Parts From My Stash Of Cores.Is There A BEST Governor To Look For To Obtain A Higher Shift Point In W.O.T? I've had good success drilling the inner weight .375" dia .375" deep. I take about .200 off the outer weight leaving the original diameter about .100" from each end. This has resulted in 5600-5900 shift. Not rocket science but it has worked. Doug

Re: 727 Governor selection ? [Re: Tom Fox] #1242805 05/31/12 09:57 PM 05/31/12 09:57 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA	The hp governor from the late 60s is a good starting point IMO. With near std line pressure, it should shift around 5200 to 5400. Then by drilling the inner weight you can get that governor to shift up to about 5800 to 6000 without messing with the springs. You'll then need to play with the 1-2 shift spring, more than likely, to get the 1-2 and 2-3 shift where you want them both.

Re: 727 Governor selection ? [Re: dvw] #1242806 05/31/12 10:11 PM 05/31/12 10:11 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA	Quote: Quote: O.K. Building A 727, Using The Best/Heaviest Duty Parts From My Stash Of Cores.Is There A BEST Governor To Look For To Obtain A Higher Shift Point In W.O.T? I've had good success drilling the inner weight .375" dia .375" deep. I take about .200 off the outer weight leaving the original diameter about .100" from each end. This has resulted in 5600-5900 shift. Not rocket science but it has worked. Doug dvw, that is about what I got too: 3/8" dia. x 3/8" deep....starting with a hp governor shift about 5800 w/ slightly increased line pressure too.

Re: 727 Governor selection ? [Re: DaveRS23] #1242807 05/31/12 10:30 PM 05/31/12 10:30 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana Dunnuck Racing master
Dunnuck Racing master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,300 Northern Indiana	If you get the governor set up where you like it using modified stock pieces or buying A&A pieces,and the two shift points don't match,call Rick at A&A. He can set you up with a 1-2 shift valve spring to bring it up to match the 2-3 shift or the other way around. Keith www.dunnuckracing.com

Re: 727 Governor selection ? [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1242808 05/31/12 11:22 PM 05/31/12 11:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA	That is a good place to start, but there is about 600 to 800 rpm difference between Rick's two springs. They are probably perfect for some applications, but I ended up buying a half dozen springs to get what I needed for mine.

Re: 727 Governor selection ? [Re: BSB67] #1242809 06/01/12 06:31 AM 06/01/12 06:31 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,853 MI, usa dvw master
dvw master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,853 MI, usa	Quote: That is a good place to start, but there is about 600 to 800 rpm difference between Rick's two springs. They are probably perfect for some applications, but I ended up buying a half dozen springs to get what I needed for mine. [/quote I agree that my method had different shift rpm for the 1/2 and the 2/3 with the stock spring. Where did you get all the different springs? Doug

Re: 727 Governor selection ? [Re: dvw] #1242810 06/01/12 07:09 AM 06/01/12 07:09 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA	Quote: Quote: That is a good place to start, but there is about 600 to 800 rpm difference between Rick's two springs. They are probably perfect for some applications, but I ended up buying a half dozen springs to get what I needed for mine. [/quote I agree that my method had different shift rpm for the 1/2 and the 2/3 with the stock spring. Where did you get all the different springs? Doug http://www.leespring.com/

Re: 727 Governor selection ? [Re: BSB67] #1242811 06/01/12 11:48 AM 06/01/12 11:48 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	Dodge Colt governor? does that ring any bells? R.

Re: 727 Governor selection ? [Re: BSB67] #1242812 06/01/12 08:36 PM 06/01/12 08:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,160 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,160 Benton, IL.	I usually set the 2-3 lower than the 1-2 shift and adjust the governor to shift the 1-2 where I want it. That way I can launch with the selector in 2 and not have to concern myself with that quick shift. Then there is plenty of time to manual the 2-3 higher than the auto shift point that is probably too low. I have not had any luck with A&A's split shift springs getting the 2 shift points close enough to work for me. Master, again and still

Re: 727 Governor selection ? [Re: DaveRS23] #1242813 06/01/12 10:19 PM 06/01/12 10:19 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,316 Prospect, PA	I have done that same thing in the past. This time I set it up to have both gear changes automatic. So with that I set the governor to shift 2-3 where I wanted and changed the 1-2 shift spring to tune that shift point.

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