Re: Another dead orange box.
[Re: 440newport]
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05/01/12 03:41 PM
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I am sorry to hear about that! ------------------------------------------------ I wonder what company is going to step up and offer us a GOOD/RELIABLE stock replacement/upgrade ECU? Both ballast type and non-ballast(12v) ECU's would be nice to choose from. FBO and Rev-n-nator are both testing their new ECU's. Who is it going to be!!!!!!
1970 YO7 A66 [Canadian Export] F8 Challenger 340 (Currently in shop for stroker assy.)
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Re: Another dead orange box.
[Re: Belvedere2]
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05/01/12 04:14 PM
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The one thing I learned about those boxes is to have them mounted with the factory spacer that came on 75' & later Charger Brougham's. Its a cad plated piece, makes a -|__|- design....if that box overheats, the insides go melty melty...ever had the back of those things (insulation) melt and run down your firewall? Its not a pretty sight. I had a Chrome Box on my Dart for 5 years and nothing went wrong with it, I just wised up and put an MSD before I became a victim of the failure on one of my long trips.
Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s
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Re: Another dead orange box.
[Re: RSNOMO]
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05/01/12 07:50 PM
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I'm a believer in grinding paint off the mounting area so you're grounded properly to bare steel...
Clean steel;a little di-electric;drawn down snug...
Lost one in 20,000 miles...
That's what I did, sanded to bare metal where the box attaches, on both the box and fender. Also used one of those sharp star washers under each bolt. I'm sure there was a good ground.
On the Mirada though, the box bolts directly to the inner fender apron. There's no bracket that allows an air gap. I may add one similar to what my NY'er has.
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Re: Another dead orange box.
[Re: JonC]
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05/01/12 11:04 PM
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I ditched the POS ECU's and use MSD on anything that I want to actually start and run.
I've drove them thousands of miles and never had an MSD fail.
I can't say the same about ECU's.
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Re: Another dead orange box.
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05/01/12 11:11 PM
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ECU failure, both mine and what I have read here and other boards, is why I went with an HEI system.
Eric
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Re: Another dead orange box.
[Re: 440newport]
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05/02/12 12:56 AM
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Ironic.. This issue come up every few weeks.. One can get a chrome box for about $50 why cut corners with an orange box.. The chrome box in my RR has been in there 10 years, I did try an MSD box a couple of years back... Didn't run any better, put the MSD box in my son's car and reinstalled the chrome box... Just my $0.02..
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Re: Another dead orange box.
[Re: Sinitro]
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05/02/12 11:56 AM
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Ironic.. This issue come up every few weeks.. One can get a chrome box for about $50 why cut corners with an orange box..
Problem is the electronic conversion kit people buy comes with the orange box , you have to spend more to get the chrome box on top of the kit. Heck even the Crate motors are/were sold with that POS orange box.
It took MP 30 plus year to supply the kit with a distributor that had an adjustable mechanical advance , how long will it take for them to change the orange box to stop pulling out the retard above 4000 rpm?
MP are you listening ??? FIX the orange box or just sell the kit with the chrome box .
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Re: Another dead orange box.
[Re: MarkZ]
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05/03/12 11:07 PM
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I ditched the POS ECU's and use MSD on anything that I want to actually start and run.
I've drove them thousands of miles and never had an MSD fail.
I can't say the same about ECU's.
Hell, just last month my MSD 6AL took a dump and almost left me stranded. Luckily I carry a spare parts store ECU with a wiring harness and ballast. In their defense though I shipped it back to MSD for repair and they only charged me $35.
It did last a lot longer than the orange box it replaced though.
I guess I'm just lucky.
I've run a couple of 6AL's on street cars with many different motors and never had a problem. I have had them where they can get airflow over them, though. I DON'T use the little, ghey, blue wire connectors that come with them, though, and wire them up the RIGHT way!
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