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Re: 5" 650 HEMI! Dyno sheet and pictures **MORE PICTURES***
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i just got my 550 cubic inch hemi back from Larry Morgan it made better than 1500hp (at better than 2.8 hp per cubic inch)if he had those kind of parts to work with i would be makin well over 1700 (just sayin)  not bustin anybody chops
First off, you have a very impressive engine at max effort 550CI hemi. Just curious, what does it run all out, and what is the weight of the car? 2nd the smaller the motor, the better HP per CI. 3rd Diablo has a less than all out hemi that makes very respectable power while retaining depenability. 4th We'll see how his motor hopfully allows him to win a championship next year. Just sayin.....
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Re: 5" 650 HEMI! Dyno sheet and pictures **MORE PICTURES***
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04/04/12 11:39 AM
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What kind of HEMI? GenII (426), 99 HEMI, or? And what are the rough build specs of it (comp, cam, 2 Dominators, etc)?
7SecCuda has a Hemi 99. I would imagine much like mine, built by someone who builds these on a daily basis, although these days the valve covers say Ford 
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Re: 5" 650 HEMI! Dyno sheet and pictures **MORE PICTURES***
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04/04/12 01:01 PM
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i just got my 550 cubic inch hemi back from Larry Morgan it made better than 1500hp (at better than 2.8 hp per cubic inch)if he had those kind of parts to work with i would be makin well over 1700 (just sayin) not bustin anybody chops
First off, you have a very impressive engine at max effort 550CI hemi. Just curious, what does it run all out, and what is the weight of the car? 2nd the smaller the motor, the better HP per CI. 3rd Diablo has a less than all out hemi that makes very respectable power while retaining depenability. 4th We'll see how his motor hopfully allows him to win a championship next year. Just sayin.....
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Re: 5" 650 HEMI! Dyno sheet and pictures **MORE PICTURES***
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04/04/12 02:57 PM
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Well Mopar has gone to the symetrical port head now so time will tell on that. If the Ford was capable of making another 100hp everyone would run a Ford, just sayin...15HP is this stuff is HUGE let alone 100.
No matter what we can all agree your car certainly runs well. And now with more power hopefully you can harness it all and the ET's will get even lower.
As for the 10,000 RPM thing. I know of a more than a few that are north of 11,000 Rpm in Comp. Hartford's motor is close to yours in cubes and he sees 10,700 pretty regularly. Spent a couple of hours with them at a divisional picking thier brains. Thiers is a Nickens piece with a lot of parts from Arrington car runs 6.60's at over 2000lbs. Hard to believe the performance these Pro Stock guys are abel to obtain ouot of these things for sure.
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Re: 5" 650 HEMI! Dyno sheet and pictures **MORE PICTURES***
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04/04/12 03:31 PM
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That's easy, its one of the Hemi99 one of two Mopar based engine combinations that can reach that HP level NA.
Just curious....what's the other one?
The 5inch BS Hemi99 configuration lol.
So...the Sonny's deal that uses a Mopar/Ford hemi design and a GM type bottom end. Oh, and they have the 5.3 bore center block as well.
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Re: 5" 650 HEMI! Dyno sheet and pictures **MORE PICTURES***
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That's easy, its one of the Hemi99 one of two Mopar based engine combinations that can reach that HP level NA.
Just curious....what's the other one?
The 5inch BS Hemi99 configuration lol.
So...the Sonny's deal that uses a Mopar/Ford hemi design and a GM type bottom end. Oh, and they have the 5.3 bore center block as well.
As far as I know, Kaase and the engine builder for Diablo was the only builders messing with the 5inch BS Hemi99 engines. Larry O'Brien(the only dodge Mountain Motor Pro Stock Car) gets all of his parts and help from Kaase then they do the rest. Kaase actually advertises one of the big hemi99 engines while Sonny's does not. The Sonny's semi-hemi was not what I was referring too.
Follow this link: this is the other one I was referring to.
http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/pro...dodge-hemi.html
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Re: 5" 650 HEMI! Dyno sheet and pictures **MORE PICTURES***
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04/04/12 07:02 PM
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That's easy, its one of the Hemi99 one of two Mopar based engine combinations that can reach that HP level NA.
Just curious....what's the other one?
The 5inch BS Hemi99 configuration lol.
So...the Sonny's deal that uses a Mopar/Ford hemi design and a GM type bottom end. Oh, and they have the 5.3 bore center block as well.
As far as I know, Kaase and the engine builder for Diablo was the only builders messing with the 5inch BS Hemi99 engines. Larry O'Brien(the only dodge Mountain Motor Pro Stock Car) gets all of his parts and help from Kaase then they do the rest. Kaase actually advertises one of the big hemi99 engines while Sonny's does not. The Sonny's semi-hemi was not what I was referring too.
Follow this link: this is the other one I was referring to.
http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/pro...dodge-hemi.html
OK, so the same hemi99 type cyl head, just a different block. Because I thought the one Diablo had built was a 4.900 BS? Or was it?
Either way, these motors are way out of my pay scale. I called Sonny last week and they want $52,800 for a custom 676 Hemi that makes 1380. I'm not saying it's too much or anything, just beyond my wallets reach.
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Re: 5" 650 HEMI! Dyno sheet and pictures **MORE PICTURES***
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04/05/12 02:31 AM
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That's easy, its one of the Hemi99 one of two Mopar based engine combinations that can reach that HP level NA.
Just curious....what's the other one?
The 5inch BS Hemi99 configuration lol.
So...the Sonny's deal that uses a Mopar/Ford hemi design and a GM type bottom end. Oh, and they have the 5.3 bore center block as well.
As far as I know, Kaase and the engine builder for Diablo was the only builders messing with the 5inch BS Hemi99 engines. Larry O'Brien(the only dodge Mountain Motor Pro Stock Car) gets all of his parts and help from Kaase then they do the rest. Kaase actually advertises one of the big hemi99 engines while Sonny's does not. The Sonny's semi-hemi was not what I was referring too.
Follow this link: this is the other one I was referring to.
http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/pro...dodge-hemi.html
OK, so the same hemi99 type cyl head, just a different block. Because I thought the one Diablo had built was a 4.900 BS? Or was it?
Either way, these motors are way out of my pay scale. I called Sonny last week and they want $52,800 for a custom 676 Hemi that makes 1380. I'm not saying it's too much or anything, just beyond my wallets reach.
My engine was built on the 5 inch bore space platform. We used a 5inch Dovovan block. And I think its true that Goodwin and Kaase were two of very few Engine builders that worked on further developing the 5 inch BS stuff.
In the truck pulling world Money is not a problem for some and a 70-80k engine is something that is bought every second year to keep up with the newer technology.
The NTPA rules state N/A 650ci engine. So the top trucks in the country with the most expensive engines out there are running ALL out 650ci N/A engines. Now truck pulling all out may not be Pro stock all out. A Pulling engine has to last runs of around 20-25 seconds at full rpm. And I do not hear of guys rebuilding their engine mid season or after every run. Just the regular Valve spring maintenance.
Here are the links to the top 3 Pulling engines out there right now. Schmit, Sonny and Goodwin.
Schmit
http://www.steveschmidtracing.com/truck-pulling-engines/new/648-cu-in-bbc-truck-pull-engine
Sonny
http://www.sonnysracingengines.com/truck-pull-engines/sar-649-1575-hp-truck-pull-engine
Goodwin
http://goodwincompetition.com/hemi.htm
Also I have seen 500-550ci X-Pro stock engines be put into Pulling trucks and they just do not work well. They are very peaky engines and once that Skid pan drops and the engine starts to pull down the RPM the smaller Cubed engined drop straight on their face.
There is something called "one run engines" in Pulling. These are the guys that come in with these sick HP numbers for their engines and then you don;t see them at the track for the rest of the year. Usually because something went wrong in the engine and they need the rest of the season to get it back together.
But that one run is usually a pretty darn good show 
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