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ATF+4 In an 833? #118677 09/10/08 02:52 PM 09/10/08 02:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,861 Gloucester,VA STOP MOVING HERE RangerDan440 OP I Live Here
RangerDan440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,861 Gloucester,VA STOP MOVING HERE	Transmission guys-thoughts? Isn't 4 designed for higher temps? 68 Valiant 408 69 Charger 318 69 Cougar 351W 70 Torino GT 351C 71 Country Squire 351W 71 Road Runner 440+6 71 Satellite sedan 318 73 Duster 318 73 Challenger 383 77 Grand Prix 455 83 Malibu 9C1 383 84 Delta 88 403 87 Grand National 96 Ram 360 09 Crown Vic 10 Challenger R/T M6 15 Challenger Hellcat M6

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: RangerDan440] #118678 09/10/08 03:01 PM 09/10/08 03:01 PM
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Paul_Fancsali master P Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,931	My advise is don't do it Your 833 is better protected by gear oil. Also had a problem years ago shifting using atf in a HD 3 spd changed over to gear oil problem solved

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: RangerDan440] #118679 09/10/08 03:01 PM 09/10/08 03:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,866 N. of 8mile, S. of heaven Spike Go Blue!!
Spike Go Blue!! Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,866 N. of 8mile, S. of heaven	A little ATF+4 Info!

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: Paul_Fancsali] #118680 09/10/08 03:04 PM 09/10/08 03:04 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,831 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,831 Kirkland, Washington	Quote: My advise is don't do it Your 833 is better protected by gear oil. Also had a problem years ago shifting using atf in a HD 3 spd changed over to gear oil problem solved But be sure to use GL-4 lube and NOT GL-5! Synchros will work better, last longer

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #118681 09/10/08 05:05 PM 09/10/08 05:05 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	ATF worked for my dads challenger he bought new for 112,000 miles. We rebuilt the tranny 2 years ago - it needed a 1-2 shift fork, seals, bearings and gaskets. guess what went back in it? ATF! Jamie Passon makes a fluid on his own that I;d recommend as well.

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: Paul_Fancsali] #118682 09/10/08 07:51 PM 09/10/08 07:51 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,065 Milwaukee, WI In_The_Pink master
In_The_Pink master Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,065 Milwaukee, WI	Quote: My advise is don't do it Your 833 is better protected by gear oil. 100% 80W90 gear oil works great. ATF is for automatics.

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: RangerDan440] #118683 09/10/08 08:44 PM 09/10/08 08:44 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2,046 ky. K kenworth_goose top fuel
kenworth_goose top fuel K Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2,046 ky.	ATF works much better than gear oil. Add a quart of lucas.

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: kenworth_goose] #118684 09/11/08 04:18 PM 09/11/08 04:18 PM
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70shaker enthusiast 7 Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 326 Davenport, IA	Use Penzoil Synchromesh gear oil and the trans will shift like butter. Ex Hemi Racer 70 Challenger Hemi 4 speed clone

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: 70shaker] #118685 09/11/08 05:22 PM 09/11/08 05:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,436 Oklahoma City OK Cudajon pro stock
Cudajon pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,436 Oklahoma City OK	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J3K94cRC1c

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: Cudajon] #118686 09/12/08 12:56 AM 09/12/08 12:56 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	I've heard good things about GM Synchromesh for the fwd 5sp's, but for an 833, why not get Passon's mystery super lube?

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #118687 09/12/08 12:13 PM 09/12/08 12:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,861 Gloucester,VA STOP MOVING HERE RangerDan440 OP I Live Here
RangerDan440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,861 Gloucester,VA STOP MOVING HERE	thanks guys, especially for the ATF+4 info page Ive always used ATF in my 833 and never had a problem, always shifts nice; I didnt know if the the +4 was much different than +3 though, and I thought if it was designed for higher temp use (thinner, maybe less viscous) than maybe I would use gear oil or a differnt ATF. Im putting a new clutch in this weekend and while the trans is out, Im going to go through it, change the fluid and seals, etc 68 Valiant 408 69 Charger 318 69 Cougar 351W 70 Torino GT 351C 71 Country Squire 351W 71 Road Runner 440+6 71 Satellite sedan 318 73 Duster 318 73 Challenger 383 77 Grand Prix 455 83 Malibu 9C1 383 84 Delta 88 403 87 Grand National 96 Ram 360 09 Crown Vic 10 Challenger R/T M6 15 Challenger Hellcat M6

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: 70shaker] #118688 09/12/08 12:52 PM 09/12/08 12:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,573 ...gently down the stream LAR_414 master
LAR_414 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,573 ...gently down the stream	Quote: Use Penzoil Synchromesh gear oil and the trans will shift like butter. How is it when it's cold out? DId you Change from one type of fluid to this?

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #118689 09/12/08 12:53 PM 09/12/08 12:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,573 ...gently down the stream LAR_414 master
LAR_414 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,573 ...gently down the stream	Quote: I've heard good things about GM Synchromesh for the fwd 5sp's, but for an 833, why not get Passon's mystery super lube? I wonder if Jamie can chime in on the benefits of his lube stuff?

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: LAR_414] #118690 09/12/08 03:01 PM 09/12/08 03:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,866 N. of 8mile, S. of heaven Spike Go Blue!!
Spike Go Blue!! Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,866 N. of 8mile, S. of heaven	Here is some info on Amsoil's Synchromesh trans fluid. Click on the MTF fluid for more info.

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: Spike] #118691 09/12/08 09:04 PM 09/12/08 09:04 PM
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451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	I have been using the Red Line MTL and no problems. Here is their web page: http://www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?categoryID=7

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: In_The_Pink] #118692 09/12/08 09:09 PM 09/12/08 09:09 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Quote: My advise is don't do it Your 833 is better protected by gear oil. 100% 80W90 gear oil works great. ATF is for automatics. I am in this camp////

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? #118693 09/13/08 02:53 AM 09/13/08 02:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 82 Spring Hill, Fl. T tecmopar member
tecmopar member T Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 82 Spring Hill, Fl.	I have always mixed my own, about 1/2 80-90 and and 1/2 ATF. If its to slippery the stop rings don't stop correctly and wear a little faster. I've been doing this since the '60's and no trouble at all, what the other guys are selling is nothing new either.

Re: ATF+4 In an 833? [Re: 70shaker] #118694 09/14/08 01:53 PM 09/14/08 01:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,013 LEE, MASS T TOMRR super stock
TOMRR super stock T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,013 LEE, MASS	Quote: Use Penzoil Synchromesh gear oil and the trans will shift like butter.

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