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Weird Cam Bolt Washer #1168476 01/30/12 11:37 AM 01/30/12 11:37 AM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	I've never seen a washer like this. Is it a lock washer of some sort? It was on the engine when I got it.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168477 01/30/12 11:38 AM 01/30/12 11:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A.	WRONG washer , thats there because someone LOST the correct one , get it changed out .

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: JohnRR] #1168478 01/30/12 11:44 AM 01/30/12 11:44 AM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,799 ILL M MLR426 master
MLR426 master M Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,799 ILL	I would not use that washer look at how the bolt head is cutting into the soft washer. Is that a dome washer ?? logan426

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: MLR426] #1168479 01/30/12 12:46 PM 01/30/12 12:46 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	Ok, I thought it looked wrong. Can I use a standard flat washer? I looked on 440 Source and theirs just looks like a thick flat washer.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168480 01/30/12 12:54 PM 01/30/12 12:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Ok, I thought it looked wrong. Can I use a standard flat washer? I looked on 440 Source and theirs just looks like a thick flat washer. NO you need the correct washer , it's THICK for a reason .

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: JohnRR] #1168481 01/30/12 01:13 PM 01/30/12 01:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	Quote: Quote: Ok, I thought it looked wrong. Can I use a standard flat washer? I looked on 440 Source and theirs just looks like a thick flat washer. NO you need the correct washer , it's THICK for a reason . Right, I meant can I use a thick flat washer like from a hardware store. I looked on Summit site and they only show the bolt. I have to place an order with them anyway so I'll ask if they have any in stock. Thanks.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168482 01/30/12 01:14 PM 01/30/12 01:14 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	looks like they used a cupped shock absorber washer? Smallblock has to use a cupped washer, but I'm bot sure about the bigblock? It might be a thick flat washer. I might have a few laying around, I went to the 3-bolt cam/timing sets on all my bigblocks.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: 451Mopar] #1168483 01/30/12 01:30 PM 01/30/12 01:30 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	I called Summit and they don't have anything like that. I need a thick 7/16 flat washer with a 1-1/4" outside diameter to stay inside the pin coming through the cam sprocket. This is a Cloyes timing set. I'm not sure if they are all like this. I'll have to call 440 Source when they open.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168484 01/30/12 01:47 PM 01/30/12 01:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA	http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/camathar1.html $9 at Mancini...bolt and washer..

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168485 01/30/12 02:09 PM 01/30/12 02:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Quote: Quote: Ok, I thought it looked wrong. Can I use a standard flat washer? I looked on 440 Source and theirs just looks like a thick flat washer. NO you need the correct washer , it's THICK for a reason . Right, I meant can I use a thick flat washer like from a hardware store. I looked on Summit site and they only show the bolt. I have to place an order with them anyway so I'll ask if they have any in stock. Thanks. I don't thing you are not going to get the correct thick HARDENED washer at the hardware store. I want to say the right washer should overlap the head of that pin some ? I don't remember ???

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: JohnRR] #1168486 01/30/12 02:48 PM 01/30/12 02:48 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 295 Vallejo, CA D ditchdrift enthusiast
ditchdrift enthusiast D Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 295 Vallejo, CA	http://store.440source.com/Bolt-kit-Timing-Chain-to-Camshaft-Single-bolt/productinfo/109-1510/

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: ditchdrift] #1168487 01/30/12 09:20 PM 01/30/12 09:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	Quote: http://store.440source.com/Bolt-kit-Timing-Chain-to-Camshaft-Single-bolt/productinfo/109-1510/ Thanks, I ordered that.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168488 01/31/12 06:09 PM 01/31/12 06:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,858 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,858 Rio Linda, CA	The original single-bolt cam washer is a Belleville washer (slightly cup-shaped)...if the replacement isn't a Belleville I would be sure to use red Loctite on the bolt. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: John_Kunkel] #1168489 01/31/12 06:25 PM 01/31/12 06:25 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,799 ILL M MLR426 master
MLR426 master M Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,799 ILL	Quote: The original single-bolt cam washer is a Belleville washer (slightly cup-shaped)...if the replacement isn't a Belleville I would be sure to use red Loctite on the bolt. Yes I agree with the cupped version but that cupped washer looks dead soft. logan426

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168490 01/31/12 07:05 PM 01/31/12 07:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,734 Charlotte, NC 4 446acuda master
446acuda master 4 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,734 Charlotte, NC	Quote: I've never seen a washer like this. Is it a lock washer of some sort? It was on the engine when I got it. it looks like somebody lost the correct washer and used some kind of shock washer as a replacement.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: 446acuda] #1168491 01/31/12 08:11 PM 01/31/12 08:11 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	Quote: Quote: I've never seen a washer like this. Is it a lock washer of some sort? It was on the engine when I got it. it looks like somebody lost the correct washer and used some kind of shock washer as a replacement. That's what it is! I compared it to a shock washer (or maybe sway bar bushing washer) I had in the parts bin and it's identical.

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: bobs66440] #1168492 02/01/12 12:39 PM 02/01/12 12:39 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida S scratchnfotraction I Live Here
scratchnfotraction I Live Here S Joined: May 2003 Posts: 15,487 Florida	makes one wonder what else trick was used in that build?

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1168493 02/01/12 01:03 PM 02/01/12 01:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,601 md M mopars4ever I Live Here
mopars4ever I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,601 md	Quote: makes one wonder what else trick was used in that build? Fram oil filter?

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1168494 02/01/12 01:15 PM 02/01/12 01:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,821 New State kidmopar master
kidmopar master Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,821 New State	Quote: makes one wonder what else trick was used in that build? Looks like a drilled-out shock absorber washer? I'd sure look a LOT deeper into that one

Re: Weird Cam Bolt Washer [Re: mopars4ever] #1168495 02/01/12 01:26 PM 02/01/12 01:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	And !! 7048024-SAM_2171900x675.jpg (47 downloads)

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