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work stock truck puller #1167391
01/28/12 07:52 PM
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i would like to put together my old 75 w300 for the lowest class truck pulling. it can be headers (though no one makes them for the
w300s) aluminum intake and i am sure i can get away with a cam that does not act cammed up.
must be iron heads on this class and the street stock class. all i have heads wise is iron 440-1 i got from jake zaring that are all out cnc from indy. i really doubt these heads will work well on a 40 over 440 with a lower duration big lift cam with 10.5 or 11 to 1 compression i think these heads will make the stock pistons. the heads are 54cc
so i am wondering about a set of the mp iron max wedge 2.14 heads. they should kick a stage 5 in cfm i think and be a "stock replacement"
what do you guys think? i just may bolt on the indy 440-1 to see what happens cause i own them but i also know i can not be turning 7000rpms down the track in this class also for those big port heads to work.
anyone have used iron mp max wedge heads laying around used?

Re: work stock truck puller [Re: dmking] #1167392
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(though no one makes them for the
w300s)




w100,and w200 are the same and fit the same.

Re: work stock truck puller [Re: NITROUSN] #1167393
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Why not put a set of puller headers on it right up through the hood? In my opinion the heads you have are the best there is for an iron head class in pulling. Lots of converter and I think they will be fine.

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no the w200 and 100 are not really the same for headers.
the w300 has a big dana60 and depending on the make they
hit the yoke. if i had a 4" or 6" lift on it would be a no biggie but we had a 360 in and the new headers hit the yoke on passanger side.

rules are no throught the hood headers. and they have to be street legal in work and street stock.

i agree the iron heads are the best for a iron head class but i was going to try and beet a guy with a big ford and do not want to cheat to beat a cheater in the lower class..
i think the 440-1 heads i have that have huge ports and flow 375 will be not optimal for a lower rpm engine with lower compression. if i go street stock then it is game on i will make a 440 that will not be held back rules on the modds.

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that is why for a more "stock" engine max wedge iron heads would be the ticket.

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no the w200 and 100 are not really the same for headers.
the w300 has a big dana60 and depending on the make they
hit the yoke. if i had a 4" or 6" lift on it would be a no biggie but we had a 360 in and the new headers hit the yoke on passanger side.




My 82 w350 with no lift had headers and they fit fine. They were hedman or hooker.

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i can not remember the make. but they were 1/2" above yoke on that design. if i can see a picture i can tell but they need to come down some then go back eairly.

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I ran 906 Heads Ported by Tim Bowman with 2.08 and 1.74 Valves and a Stock Cast Iron Intake.. when I Pulled Street Class..That was 18 Years ago.. But From watching the Street Trucks now I feel they would still Compete with out a Problem..You can only use so much Power with out Front end weights and a blocked Suspension

Hedman 79250 Headers will work with a 60 Front and not hit Yoke in a 1975 Dodge

PM Me I may have some used stuff You can use

www.GreensburgMachine.Com

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i can not remember the make. but they were 1/2" above yoke on that design. if i can see a picture i can tell but they need to come down some then go back eairly.




Just remember 2wd fit different as well as car headers. I never had issues and also ran big block 350 trucks with headers.

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that is kool nitrousn. we tore the passanger side bottom tube off on the first bump

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i agree the iron heads are the best for a iron head class but i was going to try and beet a guy with a big ford and do not want to cheat to beat a cheater in the lower class..
i think the 440-1 heads i have that have huge ports and flow 375 will be not optimal for a lower rpm engine with lower compression. if i go street stock then it is game on i will make a 440 that will not be held back rules on the modds.




Are you saying using the 440-1 's are not allowed in the street lower class?

Does the street stock class allow larger cubes?

In my mind I would use those heads. Makes sure you have a forged stock crank and some forged pistons. Some "good' rods.

What are the actual rules for the truck its self? Can you add weight? Can you block the rear suspension? Hitch height?

With the 440-1s heads the headers will be raised some. Would that help with the clearance?

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the lower class is work stock. that is the cheapest class to be in. the mods are suspose to be limited to some boltons. like headers , intake, but not suspose to be camed up. i am sure if i go down the track at 7000rms in that class or higher i will bet bumped up to the next class LOL. i know the guy to beat is full roller and i will need to do that also or a fast mopar grind cam.i just think these 440-1 may be too much for a non all out engine. but i own them so i may have to try them just to do it.

the middle class is street stock.it can be up to 6500lb and the rear can be blocked. 470cid max. once again no aluminum heads. but i can have a built motor just not over 470cid which with a 440 block no one has a 3.9" crank that i noticed. and no dominator type carbs.

the last class is prostock and aluminum heads are allowed. no cid limit. that is agenst a guy that brags his chevy dynoed 1100hp. and when you see him pull it really seems like it.

i have been pulling my trucks since the late 80s just for fun at the local fair. we were with the farm tractors on a tuesday. big block and small block. then they made it a cid cut off at 405cid.
over the years we got our own night on saturday.
then i pulled a diesel in with the gas class before there were any diesel classes. i could get into the pull off the last two years.
but all the smoker trucks wow. big money just to have fun. i am out.i was at the point where i had a pulling diesel that needed a 2,000 dollar pulling clutch and what do i tow the duster with.
so i am back to the gas class.slowly.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj-UVj_PZnA

I worked on this truck, had issue with the first pull the cut off, engaged

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDLBxFLU0_o
Also helped put this dodge together,, ( they both have same motor)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2U_6walFQM&feature=related



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nice job. one pull i got third in and had to totally let out of the power to let the clutch grab at half track. talk about peddleing it. that was a brass button clutch. then i got a centerforce which was junk after two pulls but i had a most impressive 30+mph pull. the twin street made 4 pulls.
but i was the only guy non smoker. howie's smoker dodge was always beating me but only by 5 feet most of the time and i drove my truck and towed with it.

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If it was me I would not go with any thing less than the indy-1s. I have some freinds that pull 4wds and if the trucks are anything like around here you better bring a big stick! If the rules are for all brands like you said you are going to need that big of a head. The other brands have some very good heads to chose from.If you use the -1s you have a head that will be good if you upgrade later.Around here if you want to be competive with iron headed trucks you better have close to 900hp from what I am told.But these are not "stock" trucks.Good luck

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What are rules for suspension?
Here is my 79 PW basically stock 440 with 4 speed and 3.55 gears.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLuMGE2lhFw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
As Diablo asked, can you block suspension and hang weights?
This was in Street stock class.

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in street stock i can block the rear. and it is. i own the 440-1s heads so if i want to put them on a big one i can. i just think a lower flowing head with a smaller port would work better on a not all out setup.







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