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Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: fasthawk6] #1152397 01/08/12 06:05 PM 01/08/12 06:05 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden 1 1Fast340 master
1Fast340 master 1 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden	Quote: Quote: You can have a small block mopar with stock 18 degree valve angle flow 380. Just the tightwad Mopar crowd will not spend the money. This stuff has been available for almost 10 years and no-one will spend the coin or go to the right people to get it done. Leon That may be the case, but he will not have that much more in that setup than i have in my indy heads and intake plus you can still use a off the shelf header stuff of the shelf usualy dont fit or work worth a crap anyway so i dont know what it makes for a diference

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: fasthawk6] #1152398 01/08/12 06:28 PM 01/08/12 06:28 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,986 new jersey usa 1 11secdart master
11secdart master 1 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,986 new jersey usa	Nothing exotic! M/P Steel crank, Scat rods, and 11.2 -1 compression, a 590 lift M/P mechanical cam, 750 HP carb, 1 7/8 headers, 3150 lbs. (w/driver) 4700 stall Ultimate Converter, and 4.56s...Oh Yeah over 25 years of flogging the car/combo. Its now mechanical throttle-stopped down to run 11.50s on Hoosier QTPs for Street Eliminator. Last edited by 11secdart; 01/08/12 06:50 PM. 68 Dart 410 / 904 92 D150 original owner 21 Ram 1500 Quad Cab, Big Horn , Hemi ,4x4 23 Audi Q5 16 Honda HRV

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: W5Duster436] #1152399 01/08/12 08:11 PM 01/08/12 08:11 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can. 7 72demon416 pro stock
72demon416 pro stock 7 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can.	Quote: Quote: What head are you refering to Leon? Don't worry about it because you don't need them.. I need to keep up with the Jones's...err..I mean Clarks

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: fishy340] #1152400 01/08/12 08:56 PM 01/08/12 08:56 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,027 Trumbull,CT. J jim sciortino top fuel
jim sciortino top fuel J Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,027 Trumbull,CT.	Quote: mbecylinderheads go to where it says p5 Nice lookin'......ain't it????

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: jim sciortino] #1152401 01/08/12 09:37 PM 01/08/12 09:37 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can. 7 72demon416 pro stock
72demon416 pro stock 7 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can.	Holy crap, I didn't know that we had any head offerings capable of 460 cfm

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: 72demon416] #1152402 01/08/12 09:48 PM 01/08/12 09:48 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,027 Trumbull,CT. J jim sciortino top fuel
jim sciortino top fuel J Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,027 Trumbull,CT.	Quote: Holy crap, I didn't know that we had any head offerings capable of 460 cfm Psssssst..... It's capable of even more.

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: ademon] #1152403 01/08/12 10:52 PM 01/08/12 10:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: Quote: Quote: I went 10.50s (10.40 best)with a non stroked W2 363,904 and 550hp in a 68 Dart yep it doesn't take 600hp, I went 10.40s with my stock stroke 360 in my challenger. MR Yuck wont believe you, you must have exotic parts in it! wuh? who said you need 600hp to do 10.50's in an a-body? Not me. But it will take a lot more work to make a 360 do than a 440.

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1152404 01/09/12 12:43 AM 01/09/12 12:43 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849 F fullmetaljacket master
fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	Not true! What's behind door number #1 door # 2 door # 3?

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: WHITEDART] #1152405 01/09/12 01:57 AM 01/09/12 01:57 AM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca W WHITEDART OP master
WHITEDART OP master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	I WAS NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANY BODY MAD IT IS JUST SOMETHING I NOTICED In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: WHITEDART] #1152406 01/09/12 05:02 AM 01/09/12 05:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	When I run the #'s on my 63 it comes out to about 600 flywheel hp for my 3700 lb B-body to run 10.70's. Now figure a 3200 lb A-body to run the same. Maybe only 525 to 550 hp ? That makes the smallblock A-body a very nice combo. Ron

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: 383man] #1152407 01/09/12 12:40 PM 01/09/12 12:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,369 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,369 Las Vegas	Bring on the smallblocks. I'm your huckleberry Put my NA BB's up against those NA smallblocks out there, especially at the same weight Oh yeah neither of my BB are all that big either "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: Al_Alguire] #1152408 01/09/12 01:18 PM 01/09/12 01:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 339 western PA S stevet340 enthusiast
stevet340 enthusiast S Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 339 western PA	fast and smallblock are relative terms... most "smallblocks" on here are well over 400 cubic inches, is that really small??? Maybe in todays age of 600+ cubic inch big blocks, but personally I would not consider them small blocks other than they appear the same as a stock 318-340-360 block. Sure, there are a lot of high 9 and even mid 9 second "smallblock" cars out there, some faster with spray and/or boost, but it really comes down to cubic inches and weight to really have a legitimate claim as to being a "smallblock" and to being "fast"... Look at the fastest car list, even though it needs updated, and you will see what is fast and what is small... 7009505-ediitedwheelstanddragway42.JPG (72 downloads)

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: WHITEDART] #1152409 01/09/12 02:31 PM 01/09/12 02:31 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,393 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,393 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Its from years of big block envy.... '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: WHITEDART] #1152410 01/09/12 03:34 PM 01/09/12 03:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	Quote: I WAS NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANY BODY MAD IT IS JUST SOMETHING I NOTICED wish I had a fast smallblock. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: stevet340] #1152411 01/09/12 05:07 PM 01/09/12 05:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,019 Finland mafo super stock
mafo super stock Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,019 Finland	Quote: fast and smallblock are relative terms... most "smallblocks" on here are well over 400 cubic inches, is that really small??? mine is just 391... -65 Valiant,420", all motor,2700#, dot tires, 8,42 @ 160,2

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: stevet340] #1152412 01/09/12 05:12 PM 01/09/12 05:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,395 Pa Hot 340 master
Hot 340 master Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,395 Pa	Quote: Look at the fastest car list, even though it needs updated, and you will see what is fast and what is small... Before I look, lemme guess, it's you.

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: Hot 340] #1152413 01/09/12 05:22 PM 01/09/12 05:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden 1 1Fast340 master
1Fast340 master 1 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden	seems to me that there is plenty of smallblocks on that fastest list.. and please dont come with that argument that they are strokers,boosted or on the bottle,that goes for most bigblocks aswell.

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: 1Fast340] #1152414 01/09/12 05:48 PM 01/09/12 05:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,255 Canada WO23Coronet master
WO23Coronet master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,255 Canada	Whats also interesting on the MBE website is the Pro Stock 4.9" Mopar small port heads, where they are recommended for engines 430-450"...I wonder what they flow and how they would do on a 500" engine for the street?

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: WO23Coronet] #1152415 01/09/12 06:32 PM 01/09/12 06:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,369 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,369 Las Vegas	Quote: Whats also interesting on the MBE website is the Pro Stock 4.9" Mopar small port heads, where they are recommended for engines 430-450"...I wonder what they flow and how they would do on a 500" engine for the street? Are you talking about the P5 small block head or the 99 BB head? The small port BB head from my understanding is over 570cfm. The large port version goes 625+. They are still going ot want a TON of RPM to work right. That is what all three of those heads are designed for RPM. Even at 650 cubes they still want 8300+ from what I have seen. I know there are a couple of larger cube 99 engines goign together around here right now. be interesting to see what they end up with RPM wise. Those are BIG heads no matter how you slice it. I know mine sounds really good at 9500rpm "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: 1Fast340] #1152416 01/09/12 08:01 PM 01/09/12 08:01 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND fishy340 master
fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	IM GONNA YELL THIS! Its NOT A BB HATE THREAD...lol

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