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Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: WHITEDART] #1152377
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the quickest one i saw this yr(sb n/a mopar)ran 8 teens at 162 mph hemiitis has a vid of it doin 20's....very beautiful duster i must say!

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: fishy340] #1152378
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So then the small blocks won't be needing a weight break in heads up racing anymore? Surely now that they out perform big blocks the big blocks will now need weight breaks correct?


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Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: Get-X] #1152379
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It seems to me when the smallblock strokers started becoming popular that I started noticing many very fast smallblock combo's. I have very much respect for them and am amazed at how fast they are. In the A-body they make a great combo. Course my 63 has to have a bigblock for the Maxie look and the heavier B-bodies like the torque of the bigblocks. But any smallblock stroker gets my attention. Ron

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: 383man] #1152380
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Here's a couple pic's of some sbf heads and intake. After looking at this stuff now you will no why the fords are so fast due to aftermarket support. Heads flow in the high 380's and 290's and still retain the factory valve angle for class racing. Also posting a pic of a intake to.

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Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: fasthawk6] #1152381
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Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: fasthawk6] #1152382
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Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: fasthawk6] #1152383
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i'll still put a quality w8 or 9,against any ford,or chebby sb...even a little chief or yates etc etc...and we still have even better stuff,if u got the coin for it

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: fishy340] #1152384
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You can have a small block mopar with stock 18 degree valve angle flow 380. Just the tightwad Mopar crowd will not spend the money.

This stuff has been available for almost 10 years and no-one will spend the coin or go to the right people to get it done.

Leon


Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: fishy340] #1152385
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Think where we'd be if they would have kept developing the Small Block "hemi" for Pro Stock Truck...mopars were onthe verge of becoming the dominant HP makers when the plug got pulled. The short time it was around no doubt helped to springboard the Jessel valvetrain development for NASCAR

I sort of wish they'ed have 2 classes of Pro-stock, one for 500" and on for ~358-ish. Encourage the development.

Even NASCAR should move to smaller motors...at least on the Super speedways....something around 270 cubes that would allow them to get rid of the restrictor plates and keep up the speeds. More accidents at Talledega and Daytona are really more the result of not having a useable powerband,...drivers state they were afraid to lift and losing the draft momentum that keeps them at speed...even when they need to for safety.

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Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: Get-X] #1152386
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So then the small blocks won't be needing a weight break in heads up racing anymore? Surely now that they out perform big blocks the big blocks will now need weight breaks correct?




HAHAHAH I was going to stay out of it but that was funny. As mentioned b4 they need way more exotic parts to run those #'s than a BB...but keep trying guys.


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Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1152387
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it is all about makin a car work .. so that been said i think a 600 hp small block 904 tran in a ABODY . MAKE IT VERY CHEAP AND EASY FOR ANYBODY WANTIN TO GO 10.50.......... YOU MIGHT NEED 675 HP WITH BIG BLOCK 727 AND B BODY WHICH ARE GITIN HARD TO FIND AND VERY SPENDY.. TO DO THE SAME JOB .... THERE IS STILL A LOT OF CHEAP SMALL BLOCK ABODY CAR OUT THERE WAITIN TO GET CUT UP AND GO RACING AND THAT IS WHAT I THINK IS HAPPIN LOOK AT THE FORD CAMP FOX MUSTANG AND THERE SMALL BLOCK,,ARE DOIN I HOPE ALL YOU PEOPLE LIVING IN THE 1960'S WAKE UP AND BRING YOUR MONEY TO 2012 AND LETS GO SMOKE ALL THE BBC..AND SBF WITH ALL ARE SBM


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Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: Leon441] #1152388
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You can have a small block mopar with stock 18 degree valve angle flow 380. Just the tightwad Mopar crowd will not spend the money.

Leon




What head are you refering to Leon?

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: 72demon416] #1152389
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I went 10.50s (10.40 best)with a non stroked W2 363,904 and 550hp in a 68 Dart

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Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: 72demon416] #1152390
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What head are you refering to Leon?




Don't worry about it because you don't need them..


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Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: WHITEDART] #1152391
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it is all about makin a car work .. so that been said i think a 600 hp small block 904 tran in a ABODY . MAKE IT VERY CHEAP AND EASY FOR ANYBODY WANTIN TO GO 10.50.......... YOU MIGHT NEED 675 HP WITH BIG BLOCK 727 AND B BODY WHICH ARE GITIN HARD TO FIND AND VERY SPENDY.. TO DO THE SAME JOB .... THERE IS STILL A LOT OF CHEAP SMALL BLOCK ABODY CAR OUT THERE WAITIN TO GET CUT UP AND GO RACING AND THAT IS WHAT I THINK IS HAPPIN LOOK AT THE FORD CAMP FOX MUSTANG AND THERE SMALL BLOCK,,ARE DOIN I HOPE ALL YOU PEOPLE LIVING IN THE 1960'S WAKE UP AND BRING YOUR MONEY TO 2012 AND LETS GO SMOKE ALL THE BBC..AND SBF WITH ALL ARE SBM




WHY ARE YOU SCREAMING.!!!!!!!! I can hear you from here.


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Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: 11secdart] #1152392
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I went 10.50s (10.40 best)with a non stroked W2 363,904 and 550hp in a 68 Dart


yep it doesn't take 600hp, I went 10.40s with my stock stroke 360 in my challenger.

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: WHITEDART] #1152393
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mbecylinderheads go to where it says p5

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: Quicktree] #1152394
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I went 10.50s (10.40 best)with a non stroked W2 363,904 and 550hp in a 68 Dart


yep it doesn't take 600hp, I went 10.40s with my stock stroke 360 in my challenger.


MR Yuck wont believe you, you must have exotic parts in it!

Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: Quicktree] #1152395
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I went 10.50s (10.40 best)with a non stroked W2 363,904 and 550hp in a 68 Dart


yep it doesn't take 600hp, I went 10.40s with my stock stroke 360 in my challenger.




I did 10.50 in 1994 with my 1969 black Dart, vinyl top, all factory glass windows, with a 340, 360 cast crank and W2. All motor

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Re: more and more fast small blocks [Re: Leon441] #1152396
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You can have a small block mopar with stock 18 degree valve angle flow 380. Just the tightwad Mopar crowd will not spend the money.

This stuff has been available for almost 10 years and no-one will spend the coin or go to the right people to get it done.

Leon




That may be the case, but he will not have that much more in that setup than i have in my indy heads and intake plus you can still use a off the shelf header

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