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to sleeve or not to sleeve?? #1150490 01/04/12 05:43 PM 01/04/12 05:43 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 316 Coolville, Ohio L Lew OP enthusiast
Lew OP enthusiast L Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 316 Coolville, Ohio	Had fun with our new 418 last summer but at the end cracked #5 cyl. lot of $ in block prep as you know this, if all other cyl.sona check good would you sleeve # 5 and go with it, it is not all out race,street with a few weekends at the track, maybe 500hp 10.3comp. 40overbore, kinda hate to wast a lot of machine work already done but what do we think? sleeve and go or step back and punt? thanks.

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? [Re: Lew] #1150491 01/04/12 05:52 PM 01/04/12 05:52 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,386 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,386 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Where is the crack? '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? [Re: Lew] #1150492 01/04/12 05:52 PM 01/04/12 05:52 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland D Dads426 pro stock
Dads426 pro stock D Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland	You could sonic check the block first and see if it is worth saving. Sleeving isn't that cheap because it usually distorts the adjacent cylinders, so they have to be honed with a torque plate, decked, etc. Cheaper that prepping a new block though. 2012 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2013 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2014 422 Allstars NSS Champion

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? [Re: Dads426] #1150493 01/04/12 05:59 PM 01/04/12 05:59 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Sleeve it. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? [Re: Dragula] #1150494 01/04/12 05:59 PM 01/04/12 05:59 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 316 Coolville, Ohio L Lew OP enthusiast
Lew OP enthusiast L Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 316 Coolville, Ohio	about hlf way up the cyl.in the upper side toward lifter valley.

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? DELETED [Re: B G Racing] #1150495 01/04/12 06:01 PM 01/04/12 06:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 316 Coolville, Ohio L Lew OP enthusiast
Lew OP enthusiast L Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 316 Coolville, Ohio	Post deleted by Lew

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? [Re: Lew] #1150496 01/04/12 06:03 PM 01/04/12 06:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,004 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,004 U.S.S.A.	Quote: you know that is what i wanted to hear, RIGHT! I know I did , you already had it set in your mind what you wanted to d oand was looking for someone to agree. That said I would sleeve the block , even if you have to do a couple more holes after the sonic check.

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? [Re: B G Racing] #1150497 01/04/12 06:12 PM 01/04/12 06:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,362 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,362 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Quote: Sleeve it. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1150498 01/04/12 06:21 PM 01/04/12 06:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,022 MN J JERICOGTX I Live Here
JERICOGTX I Live Here J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,022 MN	Sleeve it. I have 2 sleeves in my 499 going on 8 years now. Nothing wrong with them as long as they are done right. Jeff

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? DELETED [Re: JERICOGTX] #1150499 01/04/12 07:12 PM 01/04/12 07:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,607 Western Washington Sixgun top fuel
Sixgun top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,607 Western Washington	Post deleted by Sixgun

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? [Re: Sixgun] #1150500 01/04/12 07:14 PM 01/04/12 07:14 PM
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fed mopar Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 462 Stockholm, Sweden	My 340 dynoed 640HP has eight sleaves in it! Cuda, -70 Valiant-65 AWB, Valiant Signet200 -65 Topchopped dragcar. Topolino Fuel Altered. NostalgiaFED Sold, SuperComp Bantam Altered, Sold Ex Harlan Thompsons Nitro funny car American Graffiti Sold,

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? [Re: Sixgun] #1150501 01/04/12 07:15 PM 01/04/12 07:15 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Sleeve is good do it! One of the best drag engines I ever had --small block--had one --done right by experienced hand they are NO issue--wish other fixes were as simple and effective--really! Sleeve it , forget it, race the crud out of it!!

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? [Re: Sixgun] #1150502 01/04/12 07:16 PM 01/04/12 07:16 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,330 Lynchburg, VA Leon441 master
Leon441 master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,330 Lynchburg, VA	If all 8 cylinders were sleeved? Probably the safest thing to do. But, a sleeve does not necessarily knock the deck out of plane. Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? [Re: Leon441] #1150503 01/05/12 09:59 AM 01/05/12 09:59 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 316 Coolville, Ohio L Lew OP enthusiast
Lew OP enthusiast L Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 316 Coolville, Ohio	Thanks for all your reply's sounds like i can sleeve and run, i like that plan, thanks again guys.

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? [Re: Leon441] #1150504 01/05/12 10:20 AM 01/05/12 10:20 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	Quote: If all 8 cylinders were sleeved? Probably the safest thing to do. But, a sleeve does not necessarily knock the deck out of plane. my machine shop did 2 sleeves for me. I had cracked a cylinder on a .060 over 383 stroker. the FIRST and FIRED machine shop told me that it needed .060 to clean up, so I asked "did you check it? can it go .060?" they said "oh yea, it's good to go" being my first build, I didn't think to ask for the sonic check sheet. Anyway, 200 miles into it, it cracked a cylinder, so I went to my new machine shop and had them sonic check it. one other cylinder was thin besides the cracked one. Had them sleeve both holes, because 2 sleeves were cheaper than another $800 in block prep for a new block. they told me they "kiss" the decks after the job to be sure that everything is flat and true again. only cut .005 off, basically enough to ensure the sleeve is even with the deck so that you don't run into head gasket sealing issues. Photobucket sucks

Re: to sleeve or not to sleeve?? [Re: 70Cuda383] #1150505 01/05/12 10:21 AM 01/05/12 10:21 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	By the way, after fixing the block with sleeves, rebuilding the engine, this time with eddy heads, it made 505 hp 535 tq, and I've got 4,000 street miles on it. no problems! Photobucket sucks

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