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Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap #1147205 12/31/11 01:12 AM 12/31/11 01:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	First off I know .. I know.. what the heck are you doing changing from a manual to and auto, but what are the best options that people have had experience with when doing this conversion - cost conscientious and this will only be a cruise, no serious racing. No console, just the 4 speed hole. Thanks -C

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: ramman5600] #1147206 01/01/12 01:16 AM 01/01/12 01:16 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	No suggestions?

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: ramman5600] #1147207 01/01/12 01:25 AM 01/01/12 01:25 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,402 State of Corruption camdog440 pro stock
camdog440 pro stock Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,402 State of Corruption	Changed the tunnel out on barracuda when I was a teen. USed to be a 3sp and changed it to an auto... back then the parts were easy to find in the salvage yard to make it look stock using all OEM parts. Now if I were to do it, I'd use an aftermarket shifter and not worry about the tunnel... or the console for that matter.

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: camdog440] #1147208 01/01/12 02:19 AM 01/01/12 02:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: Changed the tunnel out on barracuda when I was a teen. USed to be a 3sp and changed it to an auto... back then the parts were easy to find in the salvage yard to make it look stock using all OEM parts. Now if I were to do it, I'd use an aftermarket shifter and not worry about the tunnel... or the console for that matter. So what shifter would use look into?

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: ramman5600] #1147209 01/01/12 02:54 AM 01/01/12 02:54 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Better figure out what trans first

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1147210 01/01/12 05:02 PM 01/01/12 05:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: Better figure out what trans first 727 or 727 with GV o/d.

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: ramman5600] #1147211 01/01/12 06:21 PM 01/01/12 06:21 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I went with a B&M Quick Silver for my street rod... cant really say I'd go that way again due to the clumsy way it has to go to N or P, you have to lift the shifter

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: ramman5600] #1147212 01/01/12 06:33 PM 01/01/12 06:33 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY T terzmo top fuel
terzmo top fuel T Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,060 Pendleton NY	for no console there are a few "shifters from hell" that will work....as I call them...lift up...lock...pull back..press down...squeeze handle...etc

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: terzmo] #1147213 01/01/12 07:28 PM 01/01/12 07:28 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 788 Plymouth, MI H HotRod20 super stock
HotRod20 super stock H Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 788 Plymouth, MI	Leave the hump in...in case you ever want to put it back. Then get any rachet shifter that you like and install it. Dont forget about the neutral safety switch and harness too. HR20.

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: HotRod20] #1147214 01/01/12 09:51 PM 01/01/12 09:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,818 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,818 A collage of whims	My '64 Savoy has the 4-speed hump; made a plate to adapt a Cheetah shifter and mount some switches & fuse block. It screws into the the holes previously used for the shifter boot ring, and it's very solid because the shifter itself strengthens the 3/16" aluminum plate. In the pic, you can see where the cable goes through the carpet & a grommeted hole in the tunnel; the black "tube" is the wiring, which will also go through & under the carpet when I finish it up. It's all easily serviceable. If the car had buckets I could move the shifter back an inch or two, but it's comfortable where it is, and easily undone if the car ever goes back to a 4-speed. 6996823-IM000342.JPG (105 downloads)

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: topside] #1147215 01/01/12 09:52 PM 01/01/12 09:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,818 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,818 A collage of whims	Right side view. 6996825-IM000345.JPG (99 downloads)

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: HotRod20] #1147216 01/01/12 10:01 PM 01/01/12 10:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,674 Buford, GA I_bleed_MOPAR master
I_bleed_MOPAR master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,674 Buford, GA	Quote: Leave the hump in...in case you ever want to put it back. Then get any rachet shifter that you like and install it. Dont forget about the neutral safety switch and harness too. HR20. And you will need to swap the starter relay so you can wire in the NSS. Topside- very nice work. Tim '71 Charger 383/727 '17 Challenger SXT (Wifeys car )

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: topside] #1147217 01/08/12 01:03 AM 01/08/12 01:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: Right side view. Pardon the ignorance, but is the plate necessary and also what is the button for on the Cheetah shifter? -C

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: ramman5600] #1147218 01/08/12 02:22 AM 01/08/12 02:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,818 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,818 A collage of whims	No pardon needed; I used the mounting plate to adapt the Cheetah mounting pattern to the 4-speed hump and to be a base that I could mount the add-on switches and fuse block to. That way it's all easy to reach and service. The stock hump location is too far forward for this shifter. Need some kind of plate anyway to blank off that big hole in the floor. The shifter itself actually reinforces the plate, which mounts using the 4 screw holes for the 4-speed's shifter boot ring. All Cheetahs have that button as far as I know; I use it for the line-loc, but it could be used for a transbrake or anything that uses a momentary switch.

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: topside] #1147219 01/08/12 07:56 PM 01/08/12 07:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: No pardon needed; I used the mounting plate to adapt the Cheetah mounting pattern to the 4-speed hump and to be a base that I could mount the add-on switches and fuse block to. That way it's all easy to reach and service. The stock hump location is too far forward for this shifter. Need some kind of plate anyway to blank off that big hole in the floor. The shifter itself actually reinforces the plate, which mounts using the 4 screw holes for the 4-speed's shifter boot ring. All Cheetahs have that button as far as I know; I use it for the line-loc, but it could be used for a transbrake or anything that uses a momentary switch. 2 more questions - Is the Cheetah worth the money? Is there an alternative you are aware of that would work with the stock hole location (lokar?) Thanks for the help -C

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: ramman5600] #1147220 01/08/12 10:54 PM 01/08/12 10:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,818 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,818 A collage of whims	I used a Cheetah in this car because there's one in my other car and I like it. I doubt there's anything with a long enough handle to use in the 4-speed shift tower location.

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: ramman5600] #1147221 01/10/12 12:09 AM 01/10/12 12:09 AM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 69 Commack NY USA 2 2Red2LoudDodge member
2Red2LoudDodge member 2 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 69 Commack NY USA	I had a BM ratchet shifter that in less than two years the cable had melted three times and one pulled out of the end cap. The fifth cable was binding before I could finish the install. Since the car was for cruising and not racing, I went with a twelve inch Lokar floor mount shifter. I used many of the same holes from the ratchet shifter rather than cut more into the tranny tunnel. I closed up the install with the boot and trim ring from a non Hurst four speed. Linkage is all mechanical, solid and no more meltdowns. I think it looks pretty good too. Last edited by 2Red2LoudDodge; 01/10/12 12:16 AM.

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: 2Red2LoudDodge] #1147222 01/10/12 12:14 AM 01/10/12 12:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA R ramman5600 OP mopar
ramman5600 OP mopar R Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 669 Michigan, USA	Quote: I had a BM ratchet shifter that in less than two years the cable had melted three times and one pulled out of the end cap. The fifth cable was binding before I could finish the install. Since the car was for cruising and not racing, I went with a twelve inch Lokar floor mount shifter. I used many of the same holes from the ratchet shifter rather than cut more into the tranny tunnel. I closed up the install with the boot and trim ring from a non Hurst four speed. Linkage is all mechanical, solid and no more meltdowns. I think it looks pretty good too. Any pictures?

Re: Shifter option for a manual to floor auto swap [Re: ramman5600] #1147223 01/10/12 03:33 PM 01/10/12 03:33 PM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,682 Philadelphia R radar top fuel
radar top fuel R Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,682 Philadelphia	I put a hurst v-matic in my swinger. It uses the same cable as B&M. It was pretty easy to bolt up a couple metal/rubber d-loops to keep it off the headers. It kind of loops around my starter. Never melted or had a problem, but the B&M replacement cable is on the shelf at most pep boys etc. next to the chevy valve cover dress up crapola. It came with all the shifter arms etc. to put it on a 727 or 904 or whatever. The v-matic has a little learning curve, but I like it. Pull rings up for R lockout. Once it's in N the shifter pops up and you can pull back to D 2 1 like a regular column shifter. In N you can also push the stick down and pull back and it's a ratchet (slap) shifter- pull back two more times and you are in 1. Rev up in 1 and slap her foreward, you're chirping 2nd, do it again into D. Slap it up to N and it pops up back to regular shifting. My little 318 is just a cruiser, but who doesn't want to feel like Joe Dirt once in a while- chirpin gears- Aaah-aah-woo! Last edited by radar; 01/10/12 11:58 PM.

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