Re: vac advance on street car?
[Re: 70VcodeCoronetRT]
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Hello, I've been reading a lot about the need for Vacuum advance distributor for a street car. But I swear 90% of the BB street builds I see have a MSD Pro Billet non vac advance distributor. So do I need the vacuum advance? This is a mild 500hp BB street build. Thanks
They do help for fuel mileage when your cruising
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Re: vac advance on street car?
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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12/27/11 02:19 PM
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Hello, I've been reading a lot about the need for Vacuum advance distributor for a street car. But I swear 90% of the BB street builds I see have a MSD Pro Billet non vac advance distributor. So do I need the vacuum advance? This is a mild 500hp BB street build. Thanks
They do help for fuel mileage when your cruising
and part throttle response.
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Re: vac advance on street car?
[Re: 1_WILD_RT]
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12/27/11 03:12 PM
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I can't recall the last time I hooked up a vac advance...
Then your wasting fuel.... Unfortunately most serious aftermarket ignitions are designed by guys with more race thinking than street thinking....
If so it isn't much. The last 3 engines (2x440's) had curved and welded distribs. The Supercharged 440 in my 67 coronet netted me 12mpg w/ 3.91's doing 65-70mph or so over 50+ miles. The 340 swinger w/ holley 750DP and 3.55's got over 17mpg at 65-70 and this 440-6 build w/ solid roller cam avg'd around 12-13 putting (40-45mph) on back roads to and from the track (40+ miles) How much better would a vac advance be?
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Re: vac advance on street car?
[Re: lewtot184]
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i use them on my streeters. they make perfect sense, and are tunable. they help keep the combustion chambers clean and aid in fuel mileage. i used to be the "full centrifugal only" type guy but got away from that thinking years ago.
how much does one want it to advance??
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Re: vac advance on street car?
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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12/27/11 03:57 PM
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Yep--I adjust to 52-54 total.
Is that too much for a 11:1+ motor
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Re: vac advance on street car?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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12/27/11 04:00 PM
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Yep--I adjust to 52-54 total.
Is that too much for a 11:1+ motor
It might very well be too much, depending on what fuel you're feeding it. If you get any part throttle pinging then back off.
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Re: vac advance on street car?
[Re: 383man]
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12/27/11 05:44 PM
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I also build my eng more toward the race mode then a cruiser even though I cruise in it 99% of the time. I just have a mech only Mallory dist and it has full advance by 1800 rpm of 38 degrees. I dont think I would want 52 or so myself with my eng and if I was that worried about gas milage I would be in the wrong hobby. Course I think race mode and that is full throttle the vacum advance dont work anyway. Ron
same boat here Ron. I run 93..I have mine in full at 2k (38*) The meth/H2O injection helps a ton under load, but it won't fog until vaccuum is at zero an at cruise my vac gauge is at 20+
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Re: vac advance on street car?
[Re: 70VcodeCoronetRT]
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12/27/11 05:51 PM
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Meh, Haven't run vacuum advance in quite a few years now. The last 318/360 headed motor that we pulled apart that I had run this way looked clean as a whistle on the tops of the pistons and would pull down decent mileage for what it was. The 440 used to get 14-15 mph going down the Interstate at 70mph with 3.23 gears, .528 mechanical, headers and Holley 750.
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Re: vac advance on street car?
[Re: mikemee1331]
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12/27/11 06:37 PM
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There was a pretty good thread about this a while back. Try a search.
Depending on how it is hooked up, can help with mileage, cooling, etc.
383, Hemi 4-Speed, AlterKtion, D60
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