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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: racerx] #1138840
12/20/11 01:54 PM
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Heres my opinion, big tire guys are cheating, chassis cars are cheating, those 2500lbs mustangs are cheating, blower and turbos are cheating, those mountain motors are cheating(that means you b.a. burakus) unless you are running 13's in a completly stock b body with a 383, you must be cheating.

Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: larry890] #1138841
12/20/11 03:35 PM
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All the plumbing, solenoids, switches etc. Pretty cool. Not for me, but impressive none the less.

Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: bobby66] #1138842
12/20/11 06:19 PM
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Heads up to the nitrous guys. I don't know this guy but he has a show on at 7:00pm eastern time tonight.(12-20-2011)
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=436420


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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1138843
12/20/11 07:29 PM
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Mr P, you are one cool head/dude.


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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1138844
12/20/11 08:10 PM
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The best my GTX ever went with a stock block and -1 heads was in the 8.30s. The car was 3300lbs and that was with a single fogger and the motor was only 446 inches. This was back in the mid 90s. Ladder bars and 29.5 tires.

The next motor was a Mega-Block, with B-1 heads and was 422 inches. It went a best of 8.14 with a single fogger,






This impress's me

Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: Quicktree] #1138845
02/25/12 03:04 PM
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now this is a real SLEDGEHAMMER, hey Eric


LOL Hey Tony!!! Just enjoying the show.


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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1138846
02/26/12 12:52 AM
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Heads up to the nitrous guys. I don't know this guy but he has a show on at 7:00pm eastern time tonight.(12-20-2011)
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=436420




Steve Johnson of Induction Solution is the Nitrous guy I just purchased my new Nitrous Plate setup from, blue printed and flowed by him. Awesome customer service and tech support too! Matt


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The REAL killer smallblock on spray [Re: Wicked49670dart] #1138847
02/26/12 02:27 AM
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nitrous cars, yea some impress me.

yea i know it's not a mopar BUT when it comes to the real deal for high performance Pratt & Whitney/Rocketdyne is the engine builder of choice, this impresses me to no end.

each of the three engines develops the equivalent of 12,300,000 HP. the turbopumps (pumps feeding the engine) for fuel and oxygen are approximately 71,000HP @ 35,000RPM and 23,000HP @ 28,000RPM with discharge pressures of 6500PSI and 4400 PSI respectively. yes ladies and gentleman the fuel pumps have almost 100,000 HP. during the eight and a half minute burn EACH of these three engines burn liquid hydrogen at a rate of 15,000 GPM and liquid oxygen at a rate of 5700 GPM. so each engine is burning over 20,000 gallons per minute. the main engine combustion chamber reaches 6000°, hot enough to BOIL iron. there are some bigger but for size vs output i think these are (killer smallblock) it.

now these Pratt & Whitney boys know how to run some serious spray

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Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: jamesc] #1138848
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this is the liquid oxygen turbopump being test fired... this things about the size of a trash can and no doubt made of unobtainium

Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: mshred] #1138849
02/27/12 04:58 PM
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Win lights impress me.




Agreed

Posts like this just prove that guys who make power N/A are jealous at times of power adder cars, whether nitrous or turbo/supercharged, when they are beaten by it...It's like they are mad that they apparently had to go the "harder" way by doing it N/A (as if forced induction is easy as cake)

Im not going to hate on someone if their power comes from their motor, a bottle, or a hairdryer...at the end of the day power is power and whoever gets to the stripe first wins regardless of how "impressive" it is

Oh, and for the record, I have a cheater kit at home brand new in the box, and have also toyed with turbocharging my car..however, at the end of the day I always felt that building it N/A would be easier- not going to lie, learning how to tune nitrous or forced induction properly is a learning curve and imo just as hard if not harder than building and tuning an N/A car... It's kinda why I havent used any form of power adder (yet hehehe) ...thats just me though


carry on




This made me think of an event I was at a few years ago. I talked to the guy I was about to race in a true street class before we ran and he told me that he was going to spray at the big end of the track if he spun or cut a bad light, ext; he did exactly that. I tree'd this guy pretty good, had him at the big end and at the last second, he sprayed and nosed by me. In this situation, I was not happy. I beat this guy fair and square and I feel that he cheated to win. I outskilled him and he used his spray to make up for his lack of a good reaction time. I would have been fine if he sprayed the whole run but he was intentionally using the spray to make up for a lack of his driving ability.

Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1138850
02/27/12 05:11 PM
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definition of a drag racer ...a person who spends money he doent have, on parts he doesnt need,to impress people he doesnt know..William Tyler Jenkins

Re: Do nitrous cars impress you? [Re: SLEDGEHAMMER] #1138851
02/27/12 05:11 PM
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i've never liked it. like anything else, it isn't exactly "bolt on". it does take some work, prep, setup and such. but it's just preference. it feels more like cheating to me.

if you can't run it all the time, it's not quite real for me. in the end, a blower is the same thing, but that is an integral part of the workings of the engine, and is always on. you have to figure all aspects of the engine performance, (and here i'm talking more street than strip), not just the few seconds when you flip a switch.

but then i have a friend who laughs at me for building my 540 and not fuel injecting it! he can't believe that i'm actually going to put carburetors on it...

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