Re: Painting questions...
[Re: GreenGlow]
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11/26/11 09:36 PM
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You need to let it go too 73rrak. It's obvious from his posts that the Toyota guy is an idiot. You know what they say about arguing with an idiot on the internet don't you ? Don't make yourself look as retarded as the Toyota guy is.
Really? Since you went there and called me retarded, please show facts from my posts that I am in fact am an idiot.
Arguing? I wasn't arguing,but simply giving professional advice when Alaskan tool started taking shots at my expertise.Just simply trying to defend myself and my reputation.
Whether he knows it or not, I have actually been in body & paint industry for over 23 years,20 of which running my own shop.Have built cars that have won first place out of 6000 cars in my class 3 years in a row, cars that have been featured in magazines and on cover as well.
Do you think if I had no knowledge on how to properly mix and apply materials, would I be doing repairs on literally brand new cars that are still in plastic for local dealership?
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Re: Painting questions...
[Re: elitecustombody]
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11/26/11 10:41 PM
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You need to let it go too 73rrak. It's obvious from his posts that the Toyota guy is an idiot. You know what they say about arguing with an idiot on the internet don't you ? Don't make yourself look as retarded as the Toyota guy is.
Really? Since you went there and called me retarded, please show facts from my posts that I am in fact is an idiot.
Arguing? I wasn't arguing,but simply giving professional advice when Alaskan tool started taking shots at my expertise.Just simply trying to defend myself and my reputation.
Whether he knows it or not, I have actually been in body & paint industry for over 23 years,20 of which running my own shop.Have built cars that have won first place out of 6000 cars in my class 3 years in a row, cars that have been featured in magazines and on cover as well.
Do you think if I had no knowledge on how to properly mix and apply materials, would I be doing repairs on literally brand new cars that are still in plastic for local dealership?
Most of these guys are not realizing when you do this professionally, you have to meet the paint manufactures warranty specs and there is only one way to get certified and most of the ins. co's are looking for those certs these days.
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Re: Painting questions...
[Re: 73rrak]
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11/27/11 09:37 AM
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Re: Painting questions...
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11/27/11 01:19 PM
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ok I can wash over epoxy but not bodywork? How do I get it clean in that stage(prep for primer)? I will get some of the Dupont 3901. Would I need an additional sealer over my epoxy paint(Zero Rust) or can I just go straight to color? Thanks for all the help...sorry for soooo many questions but that is how you learn, without too many mistakes.
Anyone ever heard of a shelf life for paint, even if it is kept in a temp controlled environment? Thanks
Use compressed air to blow the dust off before priming. You can use a towel to wipe the repair area as your blowing it off. No need to wash it at this point. If you have areas of bare metal around the repair, use a self etching primer on those spots. DuPont has a self etching primer in a spray can that works well. You don't need to completely cover the area to hiding, just a couple of light coats. Let that flash then spray epoxy primer over the entire repair area. Be sure to use a red scotch brite pad to rough up the area around the repair first so the primer will have something to bite into. Block and reprime as needed to your satisfaction. I've seen guys skip the sealer step but I don't recommend it. Paints now a days are very transparent and the proper shade of sealer are designed by the manufacturer to help achieve maximum color hiding with as little product as possible. A good uniform coat of sealer helps with uniform color throughout and keeps the solvents from attacking the old paint and primers. It's also a lot cheaper to find problem areas when the sealer is sprayed then when color is sprayed. As for shelf life, I use DuPont ChromaBase which is a non catalyzed basecoat. I've kept it for a couple of years on the shelf with no problem. If you use any catalyzed materiels, primer, basecoat, clears etc....there is no shelf life once catalyzed. Dump them as soon as your done spraying and clean your spray equipment good. Every bodyman/painter has a different method of application based on years of trial and error. Nobody is absolutely right or wrong. Products change so fast these days that it's a never ending learning curve. If in doubt, spray an old fender first with some left over paint to finesse your technique.
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Re: Painting questions...
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11/27/11 01:26 PM
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This would have been a good thread but again there has to be someone to spoil it. To 73 and greenglow the both of you need to shut your yaps, you have no business disrespecting Elite. He has offered his professional advise to the OP, not for you to go on a bashing fest.
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Re: Painting questions...
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11/27/11 01:46 PM
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Too funny, tommy trotter gets his best results with Harbor Freight equipment. From October 16th: "I bought one of the HF guns Like $50 for a full size gun and a detail gun and a couple different tips. I've painted 4 cars with it now and it still works great. I did buy a second gun just in case the one I was using took a crap on me while I was painting but it's still sitting in the package unused. I think it's just whatever works for you and the HF gun works for me. " https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...6872501&Wor
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Re: Painting questions...
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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11/27/11 01:50 PM
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Too funny, tommy trotter gets his best results with Harbor Freight equipment. From October 16th:
"I bought one of the HF guns Like $50 for a full size gun and a detail gun and a couple different tips. I've painted 4 cars with it now and it still works great. I did buy a second gun just in case the one I was using took a crap on me while I was painting but it's still sitting in the package unused. I think it's just whatever works for you and the HF gun works for me. "
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...6872501&Wor
You can paint with a tray and roller from Home Depot also. It all depends on the desired results your looking for.
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Re: Painting questions...
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11/27/11 02:39 PM
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This would have been a good thread but again there has to be someone to spoil it. To 73 and greenglow the both of you need to shut your yaps, you have no business disrespecting Elite. He has offered his professional advise to the OP, not for you to go on a bashing fest.
Both 73aark and GreenGlow joined the same day on May 13 2011 and both have the same @cableone.net. email provider.
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Re: Painting questions...
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11/27/11 02:51 PM
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Re: Painting questions...
[Re: 73rrak]
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11/27/11 02:52 PM
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I will not be be posting on this thread anymore so don't bother with a reply elite.. I guess one of us has to be mature enough to stop these childish posts. Later little man.
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Re: Painting questions...
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11/27/11 03:04 PM
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time for banishment....
Or beaten within an inch of my life with a wet noodle.....
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