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Re: Wheel Stands [Re: Digger73] #1116696
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I laugh at you.




I think there are more people laughing at you. I know I am.




Broken converter hubs are the thing of the past.I have never oiled down the track in over 20 years of racing. There is an easy fix for that problem but Clueless as you are you will continue to oil down the track with your crappy set up breaking converter hubs. Like I said before, You are the one being laughed at here,with your 2600# tube chassis car that made 1 run and oiled the track. Whatever Coupon Suzzie
This thread is for someone who wants to learn more about what it take to wheelstand and Clueless people like you that can't wheelstand always have some smarta$$ thing to say. I'm done replying to you. Go smoke some more Crack!




My car yanks the tires too but I've since adjusted it, I'll post a pic when I get home, but I don't have a pic after the adjustment.

For some reason you think you are better and know more than any one else here. You've called us names and berated any one that has disagreed with you. You are a real piece of work.

Definition of BERATE
transitive verb
: to scold or condemn vehemently and at length

Just in case you didn't know.



Thank you Mr. Jones. That is just what I wanted to know. I personally am of the school that if you pack too much air it slows the car down (ever try to push a 4'x8' sheet of plywood against the wind?). I just wanted to know what caused some cars to pack the fronts and others that run the same et/mph don't.

Mike



We are talking drag cars! Bolth wheels! I have seen dump trucks also pull the wheels way up. Just looking for a real honest 12 secound drag car that looks normal and pulls the wheels way up! Please post up a video. I have seen plenty of 12 secound cars pull the wheels up but I want to see a 12 secound car wheelstand.


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Re: Wheel Stands [Re: WheelsUp73] #1116697
11/22/11 07:37 PM
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wheelsup,i dont know what im talkin about ha? my boys are running 5.20's with no wheelie bars on 10.5's no bars,my friend DEAN just one 275 class 2 weeks ago with no wheelie bars.wheelstands are kinda fun,but a true tuned chassis dont go up the height of yours point blank! wanna see a workin chassis watch guppy's car on split leaf mono's.1 foot off the ground wheel stands cool..6 ft wheel stands complete waste in a race.or go to youtube and type dino's mustang you'll see workin chassis.

Re: Wheel Stands [Re: maximum entropy] #1116698
11/22/11 07:40 PM
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a twelve second car that wheelies is more fun than an eight second car that doesn't. it's been proven.


well i drove 12,11,10 & 9 and i have news for ya,your wrong! why the heak do you think theres such a demand for chassis shops and good engine builders?

Re: Wheel Stands [Re: Kindafast] #1116699
11/22/11 07:43 PM
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If you look real close to my pic you will see my lft front tire up just a little. I would personally love to carry the hoops as high as wheelsup , but at my age I would probally poop my pants.


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Re: Wheel Stands [Re: fishy340] #1116700
11/22/11 08:51 PM
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As promised, here's a pic of my car. Only the third pass on this combo and oh geez, I'm so clueless I'm at the division finals.

Car is on the bars hard here too, you do know what those are don't you?





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Re: Wheel Stands [Re: Guitar Jones] #1116701
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Yep, see those bars sticking out the back with the little wheels? They are called wheelie bars and are used to tune the chassis and keep the car from scraping the bumper, smashing the oil pan, bending suspension components from insane wheelstands, wasteing ET and generally making a fool of yourself. But I digress...



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Re: Wheel Stands [Re: Guitar Jones] #1116702
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And BTW since you think your Dart will run circles around my leaking junk, I'll stick a piece of junk converter here I have in it and you can come on down to sunny Florida and GRAB A LANE! Oh yeah, bring cash too because you're going to need it. Best two out of three, how's that sound huh? Put some money with your mouth.


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Re: Wheel Stands [Re: Guitar Jones] #1116703
11/22/11 09:36 PM
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Gang, I think we are getting away from the OP's desired reply's hear. Time to call it a day. If it doesn't directly answer one of the Op's questions, then it should be taken elsewhere.


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Re: Wheel Stands [Re: Guitar Jones] #1116704
11/22/11 09:37 PM
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As promised, here's a pic of my car. Only the third pass on this combo and oh geez, I'm so clueless I'm at the division finals.

Car is on the bars hard here too, you do know what those are don't you?







Horrible..Look at the body twist..That tubechassis cas should leave straight.You are loosing more power in that flexing pipe rack you call a frame than I do pulling wheelies.2600# tube chassis car that runs 9.75 VS a 3134 Lb car with mini tubs and a 10.5 tire that easly run s 10.0s( it as fast as the car is legal to go)You do the math who makes more power. No I'm not driving to Flordia.
Eddy heads 11.to 1 soild cam.
http://youtu.be/TwRs1Z5i7WA

Re: Wheel Stands [Re: WheelsUp73] #1116705
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Greg is correct...This has gone waaay off topic..You two guys can pm each other or start another thread...


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Re: Wheel Stands [Re: WheelsUp73] #1116706
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:grin But in all fairness I do like your car!

Re: Wheel Stands [Re: gregsdart] #1116707
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Gang, I think we are getting away from the OP's desired reply's hear. Time to call it a day. If it doesn't directly answer one of the Op's questions, then it should be taken elsewhere.




You are 100 percent correct..My apologys to the board. I'm done here.

Re: Wheel Stands [Re: fishy340] #1116708
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a twelve second car that wheelies is more fun than an eight second car that doesn't. it's been proven.


well i drove 12,11,10 & 9 and i have news for ya,your wrong! why the heak do you think theres such a demand for chassis shops and good engine builders?



everyone's looking for the wheelie. i read about it in nat geo. crab.


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Re: Wheel Stands [Re: WheelsUp73] #1116709
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Gang, I think we are getting away from the OP's desired reply's hear. Time to call it a day. If it doesn't directly answer one of the Op's questions, then it should be taken elsewhere.




You are 100 percent correct..My apologys to the board. I'm done here.




Lisa, Keep doing what your doing.Your a great racer with a great car that works.

Re: Wheel Stands [Re: Evil Spirit] #1116710
11/22/11 10:25 PM
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Motorcycles follow the same laws of physics that a car does; H/P, traction, center of gravity, instant center, suspension attachment points, etc. You will NEVER see a motorcycle make it's fastest/quickest pass with the front wheel 4' in the air. One of the first things that high H/P bikes get is a longer swingarm - to control the wheelstand. It's not because they don't have the "stones" to ride it out - they are simply faster not wasting power lifting the front end and the on the additional air drag that the larger frontal area creates.

Wheelstands are the result of a balance point - the rear tires. The higher the front wheels are in the air - IT TAKES LESS H/P TO KEEP THEM THERE. Again physics. I could type examples all day, but the bottom line is any power used to lift the front of the car is wasted - the lower you can keep the front anD set the rear suspension, the faster you will go.

Do big wheelstands look cool? ABSOLUTELY! Is there a trick to doing them? ABSOLUTELY! Fastest way down the track? NOT A CHANCE!




Lisa........... You picking on the boys again?!?!?!.... You Go Girl!!!!

Re: Wheel Stands [Re: WheelsUp73] #1116711
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As promised, here's a pic of my car. Only the third pass on this combo and oh geez, I'm so clueless I'm at the division finals.

Car is on the bars hard here too, you do know what those are don't you?







Horrible..Look at the body twist..That tubechassis cas should leave straight.You are loosing more power in that flexing pipe rack you call a frame than I do pulling wheelies.2600# tube chassis car that runs 9.75 VS a 3134 Lb car with mini tubs and a 10.5 tire that easly run s 10.0s( it as fast as the car is legal to go)You do the math who makes more power. No I'm not driving to Flordia.
Eddy heads 11.to 1 soild cam.
http://youtu.be/TwRs1Z5i7WA


And if your lexan door windowed car weighs 3100 lbs Ill eat my hat. lol. Who cares if she's losing et with wheelies? Sound like a bunch of pro-stockers on here. Most people forgot what drag racing is about.

Re: Wheel Stands [Re: Hot 340] #1116712
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Hmm, my car still has all the factory glass in it, steel doors and the windows still roll up and down. Door locks work too.


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Hmm, my car still has all the factory glass in it, steel doors and the windows still roll up and down. Door locks work too.


not you

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Yeah, I got that. Just sayin'.


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'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: Wheel Stands [Re: Guitar Jones] #1116715
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As promised, here's a pic of my car. Only the third pass on this combo and oh geez, I'm so clueless I'm at the division finals.

Car is on the bars hard here too, you do know what those are don't you?








Wow, you need more air in the rear tires!

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