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My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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10/27/11 02:56 PM
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Underside....  Dip Primer gray with F8 Green overspray... Actually it's 2 stage paint mixed to match the dip primer grey (thanks Rick Kreuziger for sending me color match samples of the primers!!!  ). Then we dusted the f8 paint in the overspray patterns and then we got all clearcoated with matte Glassurit clear!!! Looks good, hard to tell its not primer, and it should provide years of protection and it will be super easy to wipe clean if stained!!!
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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10/27/11 02:57 PM
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Floorpans....still need to apply the sealer!!! Its 2 stage Glassurit... 
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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At one point I thought I was gonna be abducted by aliens!!! LOL
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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Thanks! Yes, I will mask everything off to protect it... I know what you are saying John, why not let the natural overspray get under the car when painting it, and be done with it.... I did not because I still need to prep the exterior body panels on the car and all would get messed up with the blocking dust. So Id rather finish the inside, bottom, mask it, and forget about it.... Its the way i chose to do it. All that matters is the end result right??? Besides, I wanted for the underside to look like it looks now for a long time....and as I'm sure you know, for proper paint adhesion you only have a time window to apply a layer of paint atop the other, and if I only did the dip primer, and if it was just a few days later that I did the exterior paint (which will be actually more than that) the paint and clear overspray wouldnt have proper bonding with the dull clearcoated dip primer gray, and i didnt want stuff to flake off or come off if I wiped the road and dirt grime later on if I wanted to keep the underside of the car clean. The whole point for me is to drive these cars, not to display them and drive em off and on a trailer. So whatever looks original, but will actually protect the car for years to come and keep looking just like the day I did it, is what Im looking for here!!! trust me, Ive thought this over plenty!!!
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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10/27/11 06:32 PM
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Great job, can you share how you achieved the slop look with the seam sealer?
Thanks
Just urethane sealer, I bought those tubes that you have to apply with an aplicator gun. I cut the tip the biggest I could, and really applied it on REAL THICK. Then I just bought a brush and cut it in small pieces (as big as a barbers brush) and I brushed and spread the sealer. Its better to use a brush that has stiff bristles.
The key hear is to do it fast and not overdo it, you want to brush and push the sealer right in the middle to make the sealer get into the seam and leave the edges of the sealer just spread out so the spread and habve a "round" oozed off look on the sides. You want to brush just once, max twice and be done with it.
Thats it!
To those who are wondering why I left the passenger compartment sealer off, as well as the inner quarter panel undercoat...there is a reason. Yes I know that those were also applied BEFORE paint and clear....but, it was black petroleoum based sealer, and the undercoat was also petroleoum based. So it was applied, and then the floors and trunk got painted while it was still kinda fresh so after a while the sealer ended up sucking up - vanishing the paint to the point where it almost seams that the black sealer and undercoat were applied AFTER the paint. But when you look close you can see that you can still find some traces of paint over the sealer and undercoat.
So thats why Im gonna applied the sealer and undercoat over the paint, let it dry for about a month and then Im gonna dust some f8 paint over it to achieve the look that you find when looking at an original survivor type car. Ive done it before and it does look like the real thing that way.
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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10/27/11 06:33 PM
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Why aren't you doing a single stage?
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Because 2 stage is so much nicer!!!
And on the underside, I also used 2 stage because you cant get single stage paint in a matte (non shiny) finish. At least down here we dont have matte single stage paint.
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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10/27/11 07:39 PM
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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10/27/11 09:32 PM
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Great job, can you share how you achieved the slop look with the seam sealer?
Thanks
Just urethane sealer, I bought those tubes that you have to apply with an aplicator gun. I cut the tip the biggest I could, and really applied it on REAL THICK. Then I just bought a brush and cut it in small pieces (as big as a barbers brush) and I brushed and spread the sealer. Its better to use a brush that has stiff bristles.
The key hear is to do it fast and not overdo it, you want to brush and push the sealer right in the middle to make the sealer get into the seam and leave the edges of the sealer just spread out so the spread and habve a "round" oozed off look on the sides. You want to brush just once, max twice and be done with it.
Thanks for the info, I'm doing a 71RR V code right now, and I'm at that point of applying the sealer.
Norm
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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Great job, can you share how you achieved the slop look with the seam sealer?
Thanks
Just urethane sealer, I bought those tubes that you have to apply with an aplicator gun. I cut the tip the biggest I could, and really applied it on REAL THICK. Then I just bought a brush and cut it in small pieces (as big as a barbers brush) and I brushed and spread the sealer. Its better to use a brush that has stiff bristles.
The key hear is to do it fast and not overdo it, you want to brush and push the sealer right in the middle to make the sealer get into the seam and leave the edges of the sealer just spread out so the spread and habve a "round" oozed off look on the sides. You want to brush just once, max twice and be done with it.
Thanks for the info, I'm doing a 71RR V code right now, and I'm at that point of applying the sealer.
Norm
Hey Norm, also, when you spread the sealer over the primer...you will probably think you didnt do it right, but its the contrast in colors (white sealer over the primer) that will get you thinkning that you didnt do a good job, and you will be tempted to spread the sealer some more and overdo it!!!...Just leave it, and when you spray it body color, it instantly looks good!!!!
So dont overdo it! Resist the urge to do so!!! LOL
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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10/27/11 10:04 PM
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Thanks for all the kind words guys... If you want to see the whole process documented and follow the restoration, I have a facebook page on it: http://www.facebook.com/1969.hemi.chargerI still have to do the updates on the paint though!
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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10/28/11 12:41 PM
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Thanks guys!!!! Yes, thats the best way I thought there was to do it. I want to drive it and enjoy it, not just show it! The restoration has to endure the test of time and actual use and keep looking fresh!!!! Quote:
Domingo, unreal. Looks unbelievable. You really are an artist. Make sure you leave some marijuana joints and your initials all over before the carpet install.. Oh ya, leave some wrong build sheets to make it official..
Kiddding. Looks amazing. Great work.  
LOL! I could do that!!!! I dont have the buildsheet for the car, but I have a buildsheet for another 69 Charger, so I might do that to make it "correct".... LOL
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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10/29/11 01:50 PM
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Domingo, Very nice work! Thanks for sharing. Ray
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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Thanks!!! The black sealer came out great....the downside is that its taking forever and beyond to dry  I guess Ill just have to wait.... Ill work on another car in the meantime I guess.... Domingo
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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11/03/11 10:11 AM
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How long has the car been in peru?
1967 Plymouth GTX,
1968 HEMI, 4 Spd. Super Bee,
2010 Chrysler 300 Touring,
MOPAR = Machines Of Performance And Racing!!
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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11/26/11 06:18 PM
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The tar sealer is slowly drying....I guess 1 more month till it's completely dry. I will then finish off the paintjob....Im just letting the body sit there until its dry...
In the meantime I have lots of things to restore and get ready to mount on the freshky painted shell once its done!!!
So, I have decided to work on the engine now. I am gonna rebuild the numbers matching HEMI engine. Its going 30 over, I already bought a brand new and balanced rotating assembly: eagle 4,15" stroke crank and stock size rods, and 0.030" over diamond forged pistons. So its gonna be a 477 CID hemi. I got my blueprinted and balanced rotating assembly off Best Machine Racing engines, so I know its done right and ready to drop in!
Im gonna build it with 10,5:1 compression.
The block is really nice and there is no corrossion at all in the water jackets. Looks like new!!! In fact I have never seen a used favtory block as clean as this one-
Now the heads are another story...they had been ported and whoever did the job got a bit carried away so they are junk. Its a shame because the water jacekts on these heads were perfect as well, and they had no cracks at the chambers. The port walls were left too thin after porting though and they cracked.
Oh well....since the original heads are no useable, I just opted to get brand new aluminum heads for it. I gor a great deal on a pair of brand new alum MP eddy heads, and I sent em over to Jeff at Modern Cylinder head. I know these heads are not exact in appearance to the originals (shape of the alterntor boss, some extra ribs or bumps at the end of the head, etc) but they are dimensionally the same and all the stock components bolt on. Really only 1% of the people looking at the engine inside the car would notice, and since its only a bolt on item I'm not sweating it. Its not like Im not gonna miss that correct bump on the end of the head or the correctly shaped alternator boss with 600 HP under my right foot! LOL This is what I got back...
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Re: My 69 HEMI Charger got paint!!!! :)
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Ftre having been working on the body and get it super straight with lots of blocking....here are the final results with a couple coats of basecoat to sort the final details and catch the last few flaws. We are hitting the paint booth on saturday. YOu cna check the full progress step by step here: http://www.facebook.com/1969.hemi.charger
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