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I came up with just north of 35,000 parts and labor.

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is my foot bleeding from a self inflicted injury?

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this the one you emailed me about?

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I guess a little explanation of our local situation. This is a highly depressed area. 85k will buy you a real nice house. Median income is quite a ways below national average. My shop has been paid for for 20 years. I have virtually no overhead. These are the reasons my labor rate is so low. If I told someone around here that it was 50k or more to do their car I would be running for my life. Sort of hard to tell someone it costs more to retore their car than they paid for their house.

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I guess a little explanation of our local situation. This is a highly depressed area. 85k will buy you a real nice house. Median income is quite a ways below national average. My shop has been paid for for 20 years. I have virtually no overhead. These are the reasons my labor rate is so low. If I told someone around here that it was 50k or more to do their car I would be running for my life. Sort of hard to tell someone it costs more to retore their car than they paid for their house.

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That's understandable but the parts will cost the same, wheather you live in a depressed area or a rich area. The body shop that did my '69 car had over 670 hours in it but the thing is dead straight. Paint materials, depending on the color, will probably cost you over $2,000 which includes primers, bondo, sandpaper, tape, etc., etc. I think you'll be surprised at the final cost.

I would be happy to send you the 11 page breakdown of my parts and labor charges. Just PM me with your e-mail address.

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All that changes is the labor rate; we've all been saying that a proper resto will take 1000 hrs give or take and the part cost is the same no matter where you are.

Even if you charge yourself out at $20/hr and don't have to pay rent, insurance, taxes, upkeep, tool replacement, etc. etc. it is still going to break down something like this;

- parts & materials: $20,000

- farmed out component resto and specialty labor: $ 10,000

- 1000 hrs at $20/hr: 20,000

Total: $50,000

All I know is that I could have done ALL the labor by myself for free and I still would have spent more than your $35k budget. I would take the offer given above and take a look at a spreadsheet for a complete nut and bolt resto to make sure you haven't missed or underestimated significant items.

Do what you like, but I think you're making a big mistake and will be working for free. If we could all get quality resto work done where you live for 1/3rd the going rate, we'd all be doing that.

OTOH, if you don't have any bills to pay, maybe it's a good idea to do this one and then you'll know for sure one way or the other.



Dave

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I guess a little explanation of our local situation. This is a highly depressed area. 85k will buy you a real nice house. Median income is quite a ways below national average. My shop has been paid for for 20 years. I have virtually no overhead. These are the reasons my labor rate is so low. If I told someone around here that it was 50k or more to do their car I would be running for my life. Sort of hard to tell someone it costs more to retore their car than they paid for their house.

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$500 labor on the engine ??? 3275 for parts ??? What about machining costs ?

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I've done enough paint jobs and I know what I can get away with there. The only complete cars I have done were my own and I did not keep track of them for money or time because I just do not care what it takes. Quick breakdown here. Engine: Parts 3275. Labor 500. Trans: parts and labor 500. Body panels 3750. Paint and materials 2500. Total body labor 6650.Outsource 2350.

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You might be ok on the paint and body (though you're probably paying yourself $10 - $15/hr) but the big issue here is all the parts that are UNRELATED to the body. what about bumpers, gas tanks, fuel lines, brake lines, ebrake cables, drums, rotors, springs, shocks, exhaust, wiring harnesses, front end components, rebuilt alternators/ps pumps/steering boxes/heat boxes/wiper motors/blower motors.......and about 10000 other parts?

my paint and bodywork (including assy, dissassy, stripping, etc.) took over 600hrs BUT it's the other 600 that had nothing to do with paint and body that I would worry about if I were you.

again, do what you like, but the responses to this thread have been unanimous in saying you are way too low........and several of these responses have been from people who do this for a living.

It doesn't matter much to me what you do; just trying to help you avoid losing your shirt. Frankly, in order to do the car for $35k you aren't restoring everything and possibly not taking the time to do some things right.

my last

Dave