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Solid Cams who runs them? #1071775 09/09/11 02:26 AM 09/09/11 02:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,570 San Francisco Ca SCATPK OP master
SCATPK OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,570 San Francisco Ca	Wondering how many of you guys are running flat tappet cams nowadays? I am planning on changing the comp hyd in my 528 hemi and thinking of using a solid. Have buddys telling me that it is old tech and with the oils available today will possibly have problems. So what is your thought on running a solid cam?

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: SCATPK] #1071776 09/09/11 03:15 AM 09/09/11 03:15 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 577 Grand Rapids, MI 1 11secondC mopar
11secondC mopar 1 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 577 Grand Rapids, MI	MP557. Love my sewing machine, and I do run the lash tighter than what MP reccommends. Been in the car 4+ years now. Broke it in with GM EOS and 15/40 dino oil...no issues and I will be goin with another solid cam when its time to freshen/rebuild...

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: SCATPK] #1071777 09/09/11 05:59 AM 09/09/11 05:59 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 64 Merrill, WI 440CIVIC member
440CIVIC member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 64 Merrill, WI	I am running a solid flat, and my next motor will also. You need to break in the cam with just the outer valve springs then install the inner springs. There are plenty of high zinc oils out there to use, Brad Penn, VR1, Royal Purple, Amsoil. As far as old school tech, these are old school motors! They like old school tech! 6817770-Photo08160937.jpg (158 downloads)

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: 440CIVIC] #1071778 09/09/11 07:15 AM 09/09/11 07:15 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA 493_DART master
493_DART master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA	solid flat here---I love mine-- its nasty. Check out Hughes Engines ---mopar only cams. Great customer service. i use Brad Penn oil and Hughes additive.

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: 493_DART] #1071779 09/09/11 09:46 AM 09/09/11 09:46 AM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 117 Muskegon Mi D dcr member
dcr member D Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 117 Muskegon Mi	Solid here also running a hand me down that was replace with a roller and I think at times he wonders why he botherd he really dident gain a thing and Ive went 10.35 130mph in 3200 lbs car with only 11-1 compression.Useing brad penn oil and this cam is about 10 years old. Last edited by dcr; 09/09/11 10:50 AM.

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: SCATPK] #1071780 09/09/11 10:22 AM 09/09/11 10:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	I had the 528 soild in the 1st 440-6 I ran in this car. ran good. This motor sports a 588 solid roller...I works GREAT. Drives nice, pulls hard and revs like crazy. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: SCATPK] #1071781 09/09/11 10:28 AM 09/09/11 10:28 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,564 St. Clair Shores, Michigan bigsbigelow pro stock
bigsbigelow pro stock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,564 St. Clair Shores, Michigan	I run a solid flat with roller rockers. I use Rotella T 10w30 and a bottle of STP for lube. I couldn't justify the extra cost of a roller. Last edited by bigsbigelow; 09/09/11 10:29 AM. Ryan "Bigs" '73 Duster (BLKDUST) - Black, 100% factory sheet metal, flat hood, 346 cid, J Heads, and a bench seat. http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj1/bigsbigelow/ Best to date: 12.40 @ 109 mph

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: bigsbigelow] #1071782 09/09/11 11:12 AM 09/09/11 11:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,734 Charlotte, NC 4 446acuda master
446acuda master 4 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,734 Charlotte, NC	I ran a NF-62 Ultradyne solid (270 adv./243 @ .050, .548" for years in a street/strip 9;1 440. Checking lash was a waste of time since it never needed adjusting and with .016" lash it was quiet(not that I care). Cam is still in use in my brothers car and has to have 100000 miles on it by now I got a .620" Ultradyne solid that is going in an SR headed 470 one of these years.

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: 446acuda] #1071783 09/09/11 11:48 AM 09/09/11 11:48 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 855 Brisbane Australia 5 572B1 super stock
572B1 super stock 5 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 855 Brisbane Australia	Comp cams MM lobes. 440 edelbrock heads 10.7 @ 126 mph on pump fuel at 3700 lbs.

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: 572B1] #1071784 09/09/11 11:53 AM 09/09/11 11:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I run a solid flat tappet cam custom ground by Dwayne Porter. It was nitrided and I broke it in about 3 months ago. I used Valveoline racing oil and the comp oil additive with the zinc in it. Broke in fine and has been zero problems. Ron Last edited by 383man; 09/09/11 11:54 AM.

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: 383man] #1071785 09/09/11 01:44 PM 09/09/11 01:44 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA Jeepmon master
Jeepmon master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA	During my previous build of the 73 Duster, I elected to go with a solid, flat tappet cam in the SB.. Within a month, I wiped one lobe and had to tear the motor apart.. Since then, I've gone to the solid roller and have had no problems.. (knock on wood) 73 Duster 360 stroker http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2594657

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: Jeepmon] #1071786 09/09/11 03:01 PM 09/09/11 03:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,570 San Francisco Ca SCATPK OP master
SCATPK OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,570 San Francisco Ca	Don, it would be you with a story of despair and destruction! I have had good luck in the past with solid cams and thinking about stepping the power up on the gtx a bit. Look for me in Sac this weekend as I think I may take a run or two down the track and see if I remember how to drive the thing.

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: SCATPK] #1071787 09/09/11 03:36 PM 09/09/11 03:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,640 in a cattle trailer down by th... G Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
Guitar Jones Paddle faster! I hear banjo music! G Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,640 in a cattle trailer down by th...	I've had a Hughes flat tappet solid in my small block for about 15 years. I've never had anything but Mobil1 10w30 in it, no additive ever. I did like 440civic said and broke it in with just the outer springs and then added the inners. It's 140 on the seat and 440 over the nose, .672 lift with 1.6 rockers. That's more pressure by about 110 over the nose on the cam than Hughes recommended but it would valve float past 7500, I wanted to twist this thing to 8000 so I added more valve spring. It's been in 2 different blocks with the same lifters and I still haven't had a problem. I've since gotten a roller of near identical specs for my new short block, why I'm not sure after all the hassle this has been, but this cam will still see duty when my kid puts it back together for his car. "Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind" '92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1071788 09/09/11 04:27 PM 09/09/11 04:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Forgot to add I broke in my cam on just the outer springs also. Then I used this tool to install the inner springs on the car. This tool worked great and made it easy installing the inners on the car. Ron

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: 383man] #1071789 09/09/11 05:46 PM 09/09/11 05:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska astjp2 master
astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	I went Crane solid roller, with the 66550-16 lifters. With the lack of ZDDP in the oil, I have already gone through 3 jeep flat tappet cams, and the diesel oil is starting to get rid of it also. The next best thing is Phillips 25w60 XC aviation oil, uses other additives for flat tappet cams. Tim

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: astjp2] #1071790 09/09/11 05:51 PM 09/09/11 05:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,074 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,074 Niles , Ohio	Comp .588 solid in my 440.Been in at least 10 years.I adjust and check the lash about every 2 years.Just run Valvoline synthetic race oil.No additives ever.I run Kendall GT1 sometimes also.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: therocks] #1071791 09/09/11 07:36 PM 09/09/11 07:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ M maximum entropy master
maximum entropy master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,080 organ	i like flat tappets. solid or hydraulic. i've run some pretty big ones, all on the street and the strip. let's see, i've had... uh... mmm. it's been 35 years? ida know how many engines. a lot. one lobe on a .508 in a small block back in the early eighties was just starting to go away. caught it by accident doing other work. that was after a couple hundred runs and 45,000 miles. me and flat tappets get along real good. Last edited by maximum entropy; 09/09/11 07:38 PM. for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: therocks] #1071792 09/09/11 07:39 PM 09/09/11 07:39 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 498 El Dorado Ca 6 65signet mopar
65signet mopar 6 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 498 El Dorado Ca	I run solids in both of my cars, just broke in my Hughes cam with other spring only with there additive and Mobil diesel oil. Runs great 1965 Plymouth Barracuda 273 M/SA 1970 Plymouth Duster 360/904 10.60s with J heads

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: 65signet] #1071793 09/09/11 09:01 PM 09/09/11 09:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 550 Ma Voluster mopar
Voluster mopar Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 550 Ma	I run a solid in my 416 and my 360 Always pulled the inner springs for break in PITA but it is what it is

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: 383man] #1071794 09/09/11 10:27 PM 09/09/11 10:27 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi rowin4 master
rowin4 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi	Quote: Forgot to add I broke in my cam on just the outer springs also. Then I used this tool to install the inner springs on the car. This tool worked great and made it easy installing the inners on the car. Ron What brand of spring remover is that? Does it work on #7 valves? it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: SCATPK] #1071795 09/09/11 10:39 PM 09/09/11 10:39 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	If your talking a road car I'd go hyd roller BUT stay away from the big lifts and fast ramps and just enjoy the car.... if you want FAST go solid roller and quit playing

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: SCATPK] #1071796 09/09/11 10:51 PM 09/09/11 10:51 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 656 Kokomo, IN 540dust mopar
540dust mopar Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 656 Kokomo, IN	Solid cam here Comp Cams .650 - 324. 6819074-2011-08-14_16.15.51Small.jpg (188 downloads)

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: 540dust] #1071797 09/09/11 11:12 PM 09/09/11 11:12 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,134 OHIO THE HEART OF IT ALL 64hemi330sedan super stock
64hemi330sedan super stock Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,134 OHIO THE HEART OF IT ALL	stx 21 racer brown in mine.i street drive and race it. 6819113-3590768-IMG_3394.jpg (267 downloads)

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: 64hemi330sedan] #1071798 09/09/11 11:23 PM 09/09/11 11:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	MM lobe solid flat tappet in a BB for me and love it. 9k miles running Rotella T + STP for lube. Lash is very steady and no problems.

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: SCATPK] #1071799 09/09/11 11:27 PM 09/09/11 11:27 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA Jeepmon master
Jeepmon master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA	Quote: Don, it would be you with a story of despair and destruction! I have had good luck in the past with solid cams and thinking about stepping the power up on the gtx a bit. Look for me in Sac this weekend as I think I may take a run or two down the track and see if I remember how to drive the thing. Why the heck do you want to step up the power? You have a beautiful car that is the envy of everyone that see's it.. You run some mighty impressive 11 second numbers for a street car.. AND you get 16 mpg driving the car on 1000 mile road trips.. And besides.. if you step up on the power, I'll have to do the same in the 73.. just so I can say I'm faster than you.. lol 73 Duster 360 stroker http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2594657

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: SCATPK] #1071800 09/10/11 12:26 AM 09/10/11 12:26 AM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,177 ill D dennismopar73 top fuel
dennismopar73 top fuel D Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,177 ill	racer brown cams for years stx 21

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: Jeepmon] #1071801 09/10/11 12:30 AM 09/10/11 12:30 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,943 Melbourne.....Oz-land Moparmal master
Moparmal master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,943 Melbourne.....Oz-land	Comp XS282S - Broke in with Comp Cam lube and Zinc additive. I had a Hyd Comp cam which went to smoking on me...switched to the Comp Solid Flat Tappet , had no problems at break in, and it feels far "snappier" for a similar duration.

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: Moparmal] #1071802 09/10/11 12:41 AM 09/10/11 12:41 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,103 East Coast, NJ F fig426 top fuel
fig426 top fuel F Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,103 East Coast, NJ	Solid flat here. 628 lift. Broke in with comp's additive. About 14 passes and 10 hard street miles. Changed the oil once so far with another pint of comp's additive. So far so good. Chris from New Jersey

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: fig426] #1071803 09/10/11 01:24 AM 09/10/11 01:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,682 South San Francisco, Ca 70sixpkrt master
70sixpkrt master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,682 South San Francisco, Ca	Quote: Why the heck do you want to step up the power? You have a beautiful car that is the envy of everyone that see's it.. You run some mighty impressive 11 second numbers for a street car.. AND you get 16 mpg driving the car on 1000 mile road trips.. LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!!!! You might open up a can of worms. [img]http://www.imgur.com/hxlGUJt.gif[/img] 4-speed 3:54 Dana 13.01 @107.93 with street tires (not hooking up)

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: rowin4] #1071804 09/10/11 01:52 AM 09/10/11 01:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: Quote: Forgot to add I broke in my cam on just the outer springs also. Then I used this tool to install the inner springs on the car. This tool worked great and made it easy installing the inners on the car. Ron What brand of spring remover is that? Does it work on #7 valves? I bought it from Mancini but I dont remember what brand it is. I just told them I wanted a good tool to replace valve springs on the car. I will have to look on their site and see if they show a pic of it. That just happens to be what they sent me as I did not point out what I wanted I just asked for the valve spring tool. I really like it as it makes the job so much easier then using the old screw type. Ron

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: 383man] #1071805 09/10/11 03:11 AM 09/10/11 03:11 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	520 lift solid (racer brown) cam in the 360 engine in my duster. Best run was a 10.22 and stepping up to a 560 lift (racer brown) cam in the 408 stroker that will hopefully be in the 9's. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1071806 09/10/11 04:22 AM 09/10/11 04:22 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 3,210 robin hood country deaks master
deaks master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 3,210 robin hood country	Wow, a .520 lift cam runs 10.22, my 3200# Dart is slower than that with the .590. What is the spec and weight. Mick 69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200# best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft best 60ft 1.36

Re: Solid Cams who runs them? [Re: deaks] #1071807 09/10/11 05:11 AM 09/10/11 05:11 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA 493_DART master
493_DART master Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,384 Worst Weather USA	ha, thats what i was thinking mick... must be 2400lbs , 14:1 , on nitrous ?

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