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Best ignition system for the street #1042378 07/28/11 10:48 PM 07/28/11 10:48 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 740 Anderson, IN 1 1969RR OP super stock
1969RR OP super stock 1 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 740 Anderson, IN	Hello! Putting the finshing touches on my 512 build for my Challenger. Mostly street, maybe couple trips down the 1/4. Some engine info: 440 stroked to 512, 440Source kit, OOTB Indy EZ's, 511 lift Comp, 10.5-1 comp, NGK plugs, FireCore wires, stock 6pak set-up. I'm using the Mopar elect dizzy, orange box, 4 wire ballast. Just wondering if this ignition is the best? I've read most use the MSD style. I've put a lot of $$ in the engine, and want the best ignition system too. What's the thoughts? Take care! Jeff

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: 1969RR] #1042379 07/28/11 10:49 PM 07/28/11 10:49 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,028 Trumbull,CT. J jim sciortino top fuel
jim sciortino top fuel J Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,028 Trumbull,CT.	I hear good things about the ICE stuff.

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: jim sciortino] #1042380 07/28/11 10:55 PM 07/28/11 10:55 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 740 Anderson, IN 1 1969RR OP super stock
1969RR OP super stock 1 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 740 Anderson, IN	Hello, Can you tell me more? Never heard of them. Got any info or web site? Thanks, Jeff

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: 1969RR] #1042381 07/28/11 11:18 PM 07/28/11 11:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	The MSD 6 series is hard to beat for a street/strip build. Nothing basically wrong with the MP setup except QC on the boxes seems questionable. The multi strike on the MSD can help starting and low RPM operation.

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: 1969RR] #1042382 07/28/11 11:22 PM 07/28/11 11:22 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,028 Trumbull,CT. J jim sciortino top fuel
jim sciortino top fuel J Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,028 Trumbull,CT.	Quote: Hello, Can you tell me more? Never heard of them. Got any info or web site? Thanks, Jeff They are an Australian company. www.iceignition.com

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: 1969RR] #1042383 07/29/11 12:51 AM 07/29/11 12:51 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,228 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,228 Bend,OR USA	The Orange Mopar ECU has a built in RPM limiter in it, not good if your planning on running above 6000 RPM If you want the best then look hard at the MSD digital boxes and coils Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: Cab_Burge] #1042384 07/29/11 02:12 AM 07/29/11 02:12 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,492 On the run… BloFish I Live Here
BloFish I Live Here Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,492 On the run…	Quote: The Orange Mopar ECU has a built in RPM limiter in it, not good if your planning on running above 6000 RPM If you want the best then look hard at the MSD digital boxes and coils It really doesn't matter whether you win or lose… as long as you look good doing it! ‘65 A100 ‘69 ‘Cuda ‘73 Vega GT ‘06 Mega Cab ‘14 Mercedes SLK

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: BloFish] #1042385 07/29/11 03:46 AM 07/29/11 03:46 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: Quote: The Orange Mopar ECU has a built in RPM limiter in it, not good if your planning on running above 6000 RPM If you want the best then look hard at the MSD digital boxes and coils I also agree but with that said I have the MP orange ECU on my 63 and I have run it to 6500 with no problems. In fact when we had this same box on my sons Dart he had his 400 to 6800 with no problems at all. It works fine for me and his Dart ran no faster when he took of the orange box and went to MSD. Its working good but I do plan to go to MSD down the road. Also the orange box only needs a 2 wire ballast as it should be a 4 pin box. Ron Last edited by 383man; 07/29/11 03:52 AM.

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: 383man] #1042386 07/29/11 04:36 AM 07/29/11 04:36 AM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 769 Europa, Estonia Georg super stock
Georg super stock Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 769 Europa, Estonia	Best for street/strip muscle : FBO HR688D kit http://4secondsflat.com/Ignition.html Everything is tested and you are sure what you get not like some "three letters" brand stuff Outlaw Plymouth Valiant R5/P7 Powered by Liuzzo Racing COMP Performance Group dealer in Baltic Premium Performance

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: 1969RR] #1042387 07/29/11 08:47 AM 07/29/11 08:47 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 213 Mountains of NM 65superstock enthusiast
65superstock enthusiast Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 213 Mountains of NM	All three of my cars have the MSD digital 6 boxes. Rock solid for years now. Plus you get built-in rev limiters and since all of my vehicles have manual transmissions, that comes in handy!! -Jason

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: 1969RR] #1042388 07/29/11 08:59 AM 07/29/11 08:59 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I'll run a MSD 7-al on my Rampage(street/strip) with a modified stock dist

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: 1969RR] #1042389 07/29/11 09:18 AM 07/29/11 09:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,374 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,374 Marion, South Carolina [><]	MSD 6AL here. Running them on 3 different cars. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1042390 07/29/11 09:39 AM 07/29/11 09:39 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,443 central ohio N nss guy pro stock
nss guy pro stock N Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,443 central ohio	for a simple quick setup and stock look the Pertronix is hard to beat. I ran one for several years with no problems finally switched to msd 6al and no performance difference. I carry the pertronix setup now for a backup if the msd fails, quick to hook up only 1 wire.

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: nss guy] #1042391 07/29/11 11:23 AM 07/29/11 11:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,940 Holly/MI D Dean_Kuzluzski master
Dean_Kuzluzski master D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,940 Holly/MI	I ran the 340, w/orange ECU, to 6700 several times in my 69 GTS. The MSD 6AL still fired my 383 in my boat when it was literally being showered with water while in a "limp home mode" to the dock. The multiple spark discharge is only effective below 3000 rpms or so. Either are very reliable systems as far as I'm concerned. The MSD being better. R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: 1969RR] #1042392 07/29/11 04:11 PM 07/29/11 04:11 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,479 Canada CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here
CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,479 Canada	I like the original FBO A688 system, and it has the capability to LOOK stock if that's an issue...? I like the OLDER orange boxes, but the newer orange boxes scare me so much I would toss a chrome box on just to be safe. I've had a half dozen NEWER orange boxes fail, would not hot restart, and since then EVERYTHING I own has a chrome box on it, even my motorhome. I went with an FBO A688 on my Jensen, so far it has been flawless, I'm truly impressed. I'm building a 67 Charger street/strip car and looking at the new FBO system that doesn't require a ballast. Anybody here ran the new FBO system yet?? CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1042393 07/29/11 04:28 PM 07/29/11 04:28 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 996 Queens, New York H Harley super stock
Harley super stock H Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 996 Queens, New York	Quote: I'll run a MSD 7-al on my Rampage(street/strip) with a modified stock dist Same setup here.

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: Harley] #1042394 07/29/11 05:14 PM 07/29/11 05:14 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 740 Anderson, IN 1 1969RR OP super stock
1969RR OP super stock 1 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 740 Anderson, IN	Hey Guy's! Thanks for all the input! I've been on the FBO site looking at their ignitions. They do look nice. I'd like to stay stock looking if poss. I'm just having issues with extended cranking, hi RPM "skip". Everything else is new (fuel, engine, etc) so I'm leaning toward ignition. I want to get away from the orange box and ballast resistor. Thanks again everyone! Jeff

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: 1969RR] #1042395 07/29/11 05:21 PM 07/29/11 05:21 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place C cudadoug master
cudadoug master C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,245 Between a rock & a hard place	My LIKEY that FBO deal. Had no idea but it seems like a "best of all worlds" box. Well, except the lack of a rev-limiter, but it looks as though that's coming in Oct.

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: 1969RR] #1042396 07/29/11 05:28 PM 07/29/11 05:28 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,479 Canada CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here
CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,479 Canada	Quote: Hey Guy's! Thanks for all the input! I've been on the FBO site looking at their ignitions. They do look nice. I'd like to stay stock looking if poss. The original FBO A688 setup DOES look stock, and mine works flawlessly, I've had it on for over a year and beat my car almost daily. I'm not sure if the original system is still for sale though??!? If it was, I would get one for my Charger I'm doing... CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: 1969RR] #1042397 07/29/11 06:26 PM 07/29/11 06:26 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Hey Guy's! Thanks for all the input! I've been on the FBO site looking at their ignitions. They do look nice. I'd like to stay stock looking if poss. I'm just having issues with extended cranking, hi RPM "skip". Everything else is new (fuel, engine, etc) so I'm leaning toward ignition. I want to get away from the orange box and ballast resistor. Thanks again everyone! Jeff To be honest I would use the chrome box... if you were to break on the road you can put a stock box in its place to get you home... I dont know what all you can buy at the local parts store when it comes to all the other ignitions but I can get some MSD stuff local

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1042398 07/29/11 08:51 PM 07/29/11 08:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,028 Tulsa OK Bad340fish master
Bad340fish master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,028 Tulsa OK	I ran an MSD Digital 6 on my mustang for several years, at that time I was the 8th owner over 6-7 years and the setup was the same the whole time. I used it to retard the timing for nitrous and relied on the rev limiter due to manual trans. It never missed a beat! I put one in my Barracuda as well but have limited use on it. 68 Barracuda Formula S 340

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: Bad340fish] #1042399 07/29/11 10:04 PM 07/29/11 10:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy I Live Here
fourgearsavoy I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio	I would use the Firecore50 mechanical distributor and coil with a MSD 6AL,the newer MSD 6AL units look really nice with great features The Firecore50 distributor will fit with your Indy EZ heads and it's very easy to adjust with a movable plate instead of those loose rollers in the rotor I have had this setup in my car for about 900 street/strip miles with Denso iridium plugs and could not be happier Gus 6753149-burnoutpicturegus.JPG (37 downloads) 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: Bad340fish] #1042400 07/29/11 10:04 PM 07/29/11 10:04 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 master
StealthWedge67 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	If you want to race at all, the digital 6 is tough to beat. It's got adjustable 2-step and high end limiters, along with an adjustable retard option for nitrous. LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: StealthWedge67] #1042401 07/29/11 10:19 PM 07/29/11 10:19 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	my car went 10.50s with an orange box but it did take a crap. then i ran the FBO for a while till a member here gave me a MSD 6al. I will say this, my AF ratio at idle and cruise got leaner with the MSD so it works. car ran the same number at the track but idled better Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: 1969RR] #1042402 07/29/11 10:43 PM 07/29/11 10:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL Chris2581 master
Chris2581 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL	The Mopar system is hard to beat.Plus you can get parts at any parts store.We've used the Mopar setup for over 30 years,its reliable and works great. Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: Chris2581] #1042403 07/29/11 11:04 PM 07/29/11 11:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,074 detroit, mi POS Dakota super stock
POS Dakota super stock Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,074 detroit, mi	If clearance isnt an issue, I would go with the DUI Distributor. It's a GM HEI put onto a mopar body. Everything is contained within the dizzy. One wire hookup, chuck the ballast resistor.. And someone mentioned breaking down...there are 50 GM HEI modules in stock at every parts store in america. lol Just my personal favorite for it's simplicity. They also make a small distributor that will clear any firewall that uses an external coil. http://www.performancedistributors.com/

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: POS Dakota] #1042404 07/30/11 12:49 AM 07/30/11 12:49 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,845 Tampa D DusterDave top fuel
DusterDave top fuel D Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,845 Tampa	Another vote for the MSD Digital 6. Gone to the dark side with an LS3 powered '57 Chevy 210

Re: Best ignition system for the street [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #1042405 07/31/11 04:18 AM 07/31/11 04:18 AM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 769 Europa, Estonia Georg super stock
Georg super stock Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 769 Europa, Estonia	Quote: I like the original FBO A688 system, and it has the capability to LOOK stock if that's an issue...? I like the OLDER orange boxes, but the newer orange boxes scare me so much I would toss a chrome box on just to be safe. I've had a half dozen NEWER orange boxes fail, would not hot restart, and since then EVERYTHING I own has a chrome box on it, even my motorhome. I went with an FBO A688 on my Jensen, so far it has been flawless, I'm truly impressed. I'm building a 67 Charger street/strip car and looking at the new FBO system that doesn't require a ballast. Anybody here ran the new FBO system yet?? Yes I do. I ran FBO A688D system in my 340cid race motor and useing A688 in my 318cid Van. Iam very pleased! Outlaw Plymouth Valiant R5/P7 Powered by Liuzzo Racing COMP Performance Group dealer in Baltic Premium Performance

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