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Best ignition system for the street

Posted By: 1969RR

Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 02:48 AM

Hello! Putting the finshing touches on my 512 build for my Challenger. Mostly street, maybe couple trips down the 1/4. Some engine info: 440 stroked to 512, 440Source kit, OOTB Indy EZ's, 511 lift Comp, 10.5-1 comp, NGK plugs, FireCore wires, stock 6pak set-up. I'm using the Mopar elect dizzy, orange box, 4 wire ballast. Just wondering if this ignition is the best? I've read most use the MSD style. I've put a lot of $$ in the engine, and want the best ignition system too. What's the thoughts? Take care! Jeff
Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 02:49 AM

I hear good things about the ICE stuff.
Posted By: 1969RR

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 02:55 AM

Hello, Can you tell me more? Never heard of them. Got any info or web site? Thanks, Jeff
Posted By: ahy

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 03:18 AM

The MSD 6 series is hard to beat for a street/strip build. Nothing basically wrong with the MP setup except QC on the boxes seems questionable. The multi strike on the MSD can help starting and low RPM operation.
Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 03:22 AM

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Hello, Can you tell me more? Never heard of them. Got any info or web site? Thanks, Jeff


They are an Australian company.

www.iceignition.com
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 04:51 AM

The Orange Mopar ECU has a built in RPM limiter in it, not good if your planning on running above 6000 RPM If you want the best then look hard at the MSD digital boxes and coils
Posted By: BloFish

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 06:12 AM

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The Orange Mopar ECU has a built in RPM limiter in it, not good if your planning on running above 6000 RPM If you want the best then look hard at the MSD digital boxes and coils


Posted By: 383man

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 07:46 AM

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The Orange Mopar ECU has a built in RPM limiter in it, not good if your planning on running above 6000 RPM If you want the best then look hard at the MSD digital boxes and coils







I also agree but with that said I have the MP orange ECU on my 63 and I have run it to 6500 with no problems. In fact when we had this same box on my sons Dart he had his 400 to 6800 with no problems at all. It works fine for me and his Dart ran no faster when he took of the orange box and went to MSD. Its working good but I do plan to go to MSD down the road. Also the orange box only needs a 2 wire ballast as it should be a 4 pin box. Ron
Posted By: Georg

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 08:36 AM

Best for street/strip muscle : FBO HR688D kit
http://4secondsflat.com/Ignition.html
Everything is tested and you are sure what you get not like some "three letters" brand stuff
Posted By: 65superstock

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 12:47 PM

All three of my cars have the MSD digital 6 boxes. Rock solid for years now. Plus you get built-in rev limiters and since all of my vehicles have manual transmissions, that comes in handy!!


-Jason
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 12:59 PM

I'll run a MSD 7-al on my Rampage(street/strip) with
a modified stock dist
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 01:18 PM

MSD 6AL here. Running them on 3 different cars.
Posted By: nss guy

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 01:39 PM

for a simple quick setup and stock look the Pertronix is hard to beat. I ran one for several years with no problems finally switched to msd 6al and no performance difference.
I carry the pertronix setup now for a backup if the msd fails, quick to hook up only 1 wire.
Posted By: Dean_Kuzluzski

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 03:23 PM

I ran the 340, w/orange ECU, to 6700 several times in my 69 GTS.

The MSD 6AL still fired my 383 in my boat when it was literally being showered with water while in a "limp home mode" to the dock.

The multiple spark discharge is only effective below 3000 rpms or so.

Either are very reliable systems as far as I'm concerned. The MSD being better.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 08:11 PM

I like the original FBO A688 system, and it has the capability to LOOK stock if that's an issue...?

I like the OLDER orange boxes, but the newer orange boxes scare me so much I would toss a chrome box on just to be safe. I've had a half dozen NEWER orange boxes fail, would not hot restart, and since then EVERYTHING I own has a chrome box on it, even my motorhome.
I went with an FBO A688 on my Jensen, so far it has been flawless, I'm truly impressed.

I'm building a 67 Charger street/strip car and looking at the new FBO system that doesn't require a ballast.

Anybody here ran the new FBO system yet??
Posted By: Harley

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 08:28 PM

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I'll run a MSD 7-al on my Rampage(street/strip) with
a modified stock dist





Same setup here.
Posted By: 1969RR

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 09:14 PM

Hey Guy's! Thanks for all the input! I've been on the FBO site looking at their ignitions. They do look nice. I'd like to stay stock looking if poss. I'm just having issues with extended cranking, hi RPM "skip". Everything else is new (fuel, engine, etc) so I'm leaning toward ignition. I want to get away from the orange box and ballast resistor. Thanks again everyone! Jeff
Posted By: cudadoug

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 09:21 PM

My LIKEY that FBO deal. Had no idea but it seems like a "best of all worlds" box.

Well, except the lack of a rev-limiter, but it looks as though that's coming in Oct.
Posted By: CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 09:28 PM

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Hey Guy's! Thanks for all the input! I've been on the FBO site looking at their ignitions. They do look nice. I'd like to stay stock looking if poss.




The original FBO A688 setup DOES look stock, and mine works flawlessly, I've had it on for over a year and beat my car almost daily.
I'm not sure if the original system is still for sale though??!?

If it was, I would get one for my Charger I'm doing...
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/29/11 10:26 PM

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Hey Guy's! Thanks for all the input! I've been on the FBO site looking at their ignitions. They do look nice. I'd like to stay stock looking if poss. I'm just having issues with extended cranking, hi RPM "skip". Everything else is new (fuel, engine, etc) so I'm leaning toward ignition. I want to get away from the orange box and ballast resistor. Thanks again everyone! Jeff




To be honest I would use the chrome box... if you
were to break on the road you can put a stock box in
its place to get you home... I dont know what all
you can buy at the local parts store when it comes
to all the other ignitions but I can get some MSD
stuff local
Posted By: Bad340fish

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/30/11 12:51 AM

I ran an MSD Digital 6 on my mustang for several years, at that time I was the 8th owner over 6-7 years and the setup was the same the whole time. I used it to retard the timing for nitrous and relied on the rev limiter due to manual trans. It never missed a beat! I put one in my Barracuda as well but have limited use on it.
Posted By: fourgearsavoy

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/30/11 02:04 AM

I would use the Firecore50 mechanical distributor and coil with a MSD 6AL,the newer MSD 6AL units look really nice with great features
The Firecore50 distributor will fit with your Indy EZ heads and it's very easy to adjust with a movable plate instead of those loose rollers in the rotor
I have had this setup in my car for about 900 street/strip miles with Denso iridium plugs and could not be happier
Gus

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Posted By: StealthWedge67

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/30/11 02:04 AM

If you want to race at all, the digital 6 is tough to beat. It's got adjustable 2-step and high end limiters, along with an adjustable retard option for nitrous.
Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/30/11 02:19 AM

my car went 10.50s with an orange box but it did take a crap. then i ran the FBO for a while till a member here gave me a MSD 6al.

I will say this, my AF ratio at idle and cruise got leaner with the MSD so it works. car ran the same number at the track but idled better
Posted By: Chris2581

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/30/11 02:43 AM

The Mopar system is hard to beat.Plus you can get parts at any parts store.We've used the Mopar setup for over 30 years,its reliable and works great.
Posted By: POS Dakota

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/30/11 03:04 AM

If clearance isnt an issue, I would go with the DUI Distributor.
It's a GM HEI put onto a mopar body. Everything is contained within the dizzy. One wire hookup, chuck the ballast resistor.. And someone mentioned breaking down...there are 50 GM HEI modules in stock at every parts store in america. lol

Just my personal favorite for it's simplicity.

They also make a small distributor that will clear any firewall that uses an external coil.

http://www.performancedistributors.com/
Posted By: DusterDave

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/30/11 04:49 AM

Another vote for the MSD Digital 6.
Posted By: Georg

Re: Best ignition system for the street - 07/31/11 08:18 AM

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I like the original FBO A688 system, and it has the capability to LOOK stock if that's an issue...?

I like the OLDER orange boxes, but the newer orange boxes scare me so much I would toss a chrome box on just to be safe. I've had a half dozen NEWER orange boxes fail, would not hot restart, and since then EVERYTHING I own has a chrome box on it, even my motorhome.
I went with an FBO A688 on my Jensen, so far it has been flawless, I'm truly impressed.

I'm building a 67 Charger street/strip car and looking at the new FBO system that doesn't require a ballast.

Anybody here ran the new FBO system yet??



Yes I do. I ran FBO A688D system in my 340cid race motor and useing A688 in my 318cid Van. Iam very pleased!
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