A bit off topic but I was taking a tour of the Honda plant in Alabama a few years ago. One line was making the Odyssey and the other was making the Pilot. After checking out the assembly line for the Pilot we went outside to go to the stamping plant. Outside was a huge lot of Pilots. When asked about them the guide told us that they all had quality control issues that had to be fixed before they could get shipped out. So I guess all manufacturers have their problems. If you ever get a chance to tour a auto factory I highly encourage it.