yes i will be pulling the the trans this spring and have a look see. i understand what you are saying and i might install one next year if i can come up with the money. but the weared thing is i had a 3500 pound 65 plymouth that would run 1.41 60 foot times and i never broke the 8-3/4 in it and it had a lot of passes on it.like i said i am not trying to argue with you. well i am done racing the car untill i put a cage in it. so in the mean time i am going to fix the 8-3/4 untill i can save up the money to do the dana.