Doug,that was the year before that incident with Deanna Stevens happened.Two years ago is when Wheatcraft and the other guys left.I remember seeing Wheatcraft at the next race and I asked him why he didn't say anything about the track being unsafe,and his reply was"What's the use,there not going to do anything". Using Danny Smith as an example is a bad one.Sure he hooked up,but he could get that car to hook in a snow storm.He was the exception rather than the rule.Doug,you have my email address,pm me with your phone # and I can talk for hours reguarding those 2 tracks.Safety should be the #1 concern when we pay to enter these events.