Up till resently I always ran Racer Brown solid lift cams in my small blocks. When I did desire to step up to a bigger cam I posted a question about what lifter to run and was pointed to the Comp 828's. Heck I still have a solid lift cam in my R3 block but when I rebuild next Winter I hope I can bring away enough safely to get the Bam roller lifters in it so I can lean on this engine some. I know I will never buy the 828's again.