LOL! he already got "sticker shock" from Dave's 904 quote and decided it wasn't the route he wanted to go...... although we might not be having this post if he'd taken the plunge. While I do have some basic knowledge of torqueflights, I'm no Dave Smith or Chuck Lofgren. The 727 in the Mirada was a Chuck trans and I had Dave do some updates to it. That trans was lightning quick and worked ever so well. I miss it dearly and "IF" I stay with the 727, I'm heading west to have it done.