Steve, I'm thinking if DORF hadn't built the CJs, would Chrysler had built the DP Challengers, or made them more than one year? I think the competition is good for all the brands as it causes a lot of interest (and unrest for the existing Stock and SS racers). The 500 HP Moosetang engine is now factored at 576 in the 2010 Moosetang. The HP factors are getting closer to reality, but still not quick enough for the class racers.