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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: 69_SIX_PACK] #9879
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I thought that the first 100 Road Runners had Order numbers that followed the VIN numbers. But if you look at car #66 VIN #RM21M9A246429 is three behind car #156 VIN #RM23M9A246426, but three ahead 949055 VS. 949058 on the Order #. Just a random observation with no real value.

Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: Dave Watt] #9880
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the VON, has nothing to do with the order that the cars came out, they were generated by the chryco computer, dealing more with dealer number...I.E. - i know of 2 71 cuda 340/3 spd/shaker cars that have sequential order numbers, but the V.I.N.'s and assembly dates are 6 weeks apart, but they went to the same dealership. hope that throws a new light on the vehicle order number situation....


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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: M_code_Coop] #9881
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Sequence# B 301572 Order# 426 922482 Sequential number(VIN) WM21M9A303022.Sold car sales bank 4Special Order 9. Q5 AUTOMATIC 6 PAK under Remarks at bottom of sheet. Hope this helps. PJ

Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: 69_SIX_PACK] #9882
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Are all the attachments gone, or is my computer messed up?

Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: Dave Watt] #9883
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They're gone.


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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: M_code_Coop] #9884
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This is a repost since all the old attachments are gone.

Plymouth Road Runner
RM21M9A246386
949003 Order Number
3-29-69 Scheduled Build Date

Engine casting # 2536430-5
(Cast date) 2 19 69
E440
(EAD) 3 19 HP T W
(According to Galen G., TW stands for water test)

Transmission

Exhaust Manifolds
2806900 (right)(No Date)
2843992 (left) (Date) 1 8 69

Carburators
Front (List)4393 (Date)0739
Center(List)4391 (Date)0729
Rear (List)4394 (Date)0729

Dana 60 housing
2 17 9 B1
2 20 9 B7 3
C 34155
602957 6

Sure grip unit (Date) 2 19 69

Torsion Bars, Hemi Suspension
Right 780 (Date)109
Left 781 (Date)079

Wiper Motor
(Date) 0219

Radiator
2949054 (Date)0279

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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: Dave Watt] #9885
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This may be a no brainer but, I was looking at the A12 registry and I noticed that 4 speed and auto vin numbers are grouped together like they built a certain number of 4 speed cars and then switched to automatic cars. Does any one know if this is true and if there was a certain number of cars built with 4 speeds at a time? I used to think that they grouped cars by colors but I found a couple examples of sequintial vin number cars being different colors.


1969 Coronet R/T Y2 Y2 P6X X9 V8X 1967 Satellite 383 4speed
Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: 69Y2RT] #9886
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I was working on the bee over the weekend and found another part with a date code. The attached shot is from the inner fender splash quard. It is marked as such SWL 9 2. I believe decoded that is left side splash guard Dated (9) 1969 , (2) Feb.
-Paul

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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: A12bee] #9887
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Saw this on the eng/trans lost and found page.

440 block from lynch road

Vin 9A270698
Cast date 2 17 69
EAD 5 5 69


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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: M_code_Coop] #9888
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Here is a link to a 69 Runner that was built at Lynch Rd. I am not at home so hopefully someone can save the pics for reference. Last 6 of VIN is 289324 and built on 605. Can't quite make out the buildsheet since I am at work supposed to be working.
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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: MI_Custumz] #9889
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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: MI_Custumz] #9890
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I guess I will add this here. Ever adding to list

the second column is the SPD from the fender tag.

RH 319 9A243347
RM 315 9A243369
RM 324 9A246221
RM 329 21M9A246386--------EAD 3 19 (dave Watt)
..........9A246386----Feb 6th Tranny (Dave Watt)
RM 329 21H9A246389--------EAD 3 19 (Harry Goldthorpe)
RH 327 9A248906
RM 402 9A252551
RM 404 21H9A254049
WM 408 9A255429
RM 329 21M9A257118 -----------(rocketresto)
RM 410 9A257478
RM 426 23M9A262511 ------ 4 29 (HolyRRoller tranny)
WM 426 M9A263554 (AZ Dave)
WM 501 9A265557
RM 505 9A266270
RM 506 9A267355
..........9A270643--------EAD 5 28
..........9A270698--------EAD 5 5
RM 426 23M9A272929--------EAD 6 4
RM 426 23M9A282561 (TailButcher)
RM 426 23M9A282563--------EAD 6 5
RM 426 21M9A282574 (RapidRunner)
RM 426 2XM9A282587 (gillman34)
WM 426 23M9A284121---------------(justonewontdo)
RM 426 23M9A286687--------EAD 6 3 (John D’s from Northern VA)
RM 605 21H9A289324 ---------(MI_Custumz)
TRANS VIN 290229 May 21,1969 (DannysBEE)
WM 23H9A295300--------EAD 6 12
RM 616 23H9A297104
TRANS VIN 9A297974 May 28 1969
RM 619 9A300194
WM 426 23M9A301687--------EAD 6 10 (BADSIXPACK – Pete)
WM 426 23M9A301697 (BADSIXPACK – Pete)
RP 618 9A300367
XX 426 M9A303025--------EAD 6 13
WM 426 9A306947
WM 426 23M9A306xxx--------EAD 6 18
RM 701 9A305078
RS 709 9A309995
RM 709 9A310417
RM 709 9A310859

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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: RapidRunner] #9891
01/19/06 08:33 PM
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Where do I find the EAD???

Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes #9892
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PJ, it will be hand stamped into the top machined pad on your engine block near the distributor.

Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: Dave Watt] #9893
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Thanks. I wish that I had my original block back. I was told that it was ruined and then I found out that it ended up in a Charger, that has been sold out of our area to parts unknown.

Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: M_code_Coop] #9894
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Coop, recent acquisition, M-Code WM23M9A284121, tag notes = Top LtoR 13134 286679 Bottom right, 921468, don't know if it helps the cause, but looking for original drivetrain as we speak...Origianl F/8 car, painted yellow, minied, tied, celled, 6 pointed, any guys out there remember this car from street bracket racing extensively in the 80's (Chicagoland)(Some of you guys might not remember the eighties!) (Maybe that's good-Back then Michael Jackson was eccentric, not crazy!) Thanks for the much information you have posted, I have really enjoyed reading the posted information.......What's the build date based on this info coop??..........B

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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: M_code_Coop] #9895
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I was cleening out my desk an found a fender tag rubbing for a car I looked at about 4 years ago. I don't think very many people have seen it, so I thought I'd post the tag info. The car has deen tubbed and caged and the original drive train is long gone. The car is not for sale.

08102 256722 9A257118
926 999 093
26 A12

R4 R4 H2X X9
RM21 E63 D32 329 949362

I hope this helps your data base

Mike

Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes #9896
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Welcome! and thanks for the info. Nice car too. many of us have cars which were track warriors...you're far from alone on that one.

Every little bit of info helps. Now, if we can get some of the 'all original' motor cars out there to post their dates we could more accurately assess the NOM cars.

I'm no expert, just guilty of starting this thread. Love to take a guess at your build date...

Have you checked behind the door panels? They are one of the last things to go on the car and are dated.

Aside from part dates we generally use the VINs to round up a build date. if you look above to Rapid's (Mike E) post you'll see John D's original motor car has a VIN very close to yours and an EAD (engine assembly date) of June 3rd. The post 2 above that refers to a lynch road runner with a 289324 VIN having an 'official' (often not actual) build date of June 5th.

If you check through the various info on this thread you'll see a broad trend. The early cars (24XXXX VINs) were built in March, and the late cars (30XXXX VINs) were built in June/July. But that's not to say the trend is absolute. There are always exceptions.

The debates on when the engines and door panels were actually installed (relative to when they were dated) have yet to be resolved. But taking all things into consideration, and hazzarding a guess for you- I'd say your car generally fits into a 1st or second week of June build date. Take your pick on the exact day.

It would've been nice if the last person escorting these things out the door had stamped the date on them -LOL- but no such luck. We are left to speculate through calculated guessing.

Hopefully more here will speculate on how to decipher your car's date. You'll see the beauty of this forum and how multiple responses lead to a more complete understanding of the 'answer'.

Welcome (again) and stick around.


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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: M_code_Coop] #9897
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Thanks Coop, I have been enlightened by both you and Mr. Watt, and I see the "trend" you are talking about. Don't hold it against me, but I have been through GTO's for the last dozen years (maybe 50-3 Judges), and it is easier to deal with connecting a car with the original paperwork from Pontiac (PHS), Vs a car that has been for lack of a better term, "drop shipped to the hot rod shop"....This is an education on my part...
By the way the entire tag reads
13134 286679 9A284121
925 999 603
26 A12
1X 8X
F8 F8 h2X X9
WM23 E63 D21 426 921468
Tag has a sideways "G' by the right screw hole...
Mr Watt has been gratious and filled me in on most of the meanings of these (Hats Off to Him!)
Great Forum here, my experiences so far have been great,,,,, Keep Smiling! Brian

Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes #9898
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JUST- your car is only 21 behind my bee.If you have any date code type questions my car would be fairly close.Let me know if you need any info.

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