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Re: small block spead port head [Re: Quicktree] #989494
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very intresting news for sure
sounds like something like a smallblock predatorhead

Re: small block spead port head [Re: johnl1961] #989495
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I need to keep track of this, in case some pictures show up.

Re: small block spead port head [Re: S/ST 3040] #989496
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what are you building the intake plenum design after?
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Re: small block spead port head [Re: johnl1961] #989497
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Canted valves... hhmmmmm.. these should be interesting.

Re: small block spead port head [Re: johnl1961] #989498
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sounds interesting, i'll stick with ryan. he's the man. w-9's- 359.6@700. seeya.

Re: small block spead port head [Re: Hot 340] #989499
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Re: small block spead port head [Re: LA360] #989500
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So will this work on the 59 degree. Stuff.

Re: small block spead port head [Re: FIREGUY12] #989501
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Sounds like they will make power, but also sound expensive to an already expensive engine combo. The canted valves and special valve train just makes an added expence.

Ill stick with a mopar WEDGE head design which we all know works. Leave the Chevy valve design to the bowties.

Not hating on what your doing, just not cup of tea.

Kasey

Re: small block spead port head [Re: Moparnut426] #989502
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I think it's great that more new parts ar coming out and espesially eh fact someone is incorporating different design technology to the mopar head, BOUT TIME

Re: small block spead port head [Re: Moparnut426] #989503
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I wouldn't hate on it to much, let's not forget that this isn't a Chevy design, it's a Mopar design as far as I'm concerned, just like the original small block was (the polysphere's, 318 "A" engines, etc). Even the blocks in our beloved wedge small blocks were originaly designed for canted valve IEIEIEIE design heads (59 degree lifter angle which was kept but is a compromise for a wedge design). It suprises me that it took someone so long to do this cause if you look at it, it really is just a spin off of the original 50's design. Now I'm sure that there will be absolutely no parts interchange and it's probably a clean sheet of paper design, but the similarities, by the sounds of it, are there. Look at the latest and greatest Big Block Chevy heads. Alot of them have no parts interchange with factory stuff and are basically a clean sheet design if you compared them directly, but you don't see Chevy guys belly aching that they aren't "Chevy". I think that as Mopar guys we should be doing back flips that these will be available and can still be considered "Mopar" by design

Re: small block spead port head [Re: WO23Coronet] #989504
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I'm reserving my "back Flips" for the time being.


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Re: small block spead port head [Re: WO23Coronet] #989505
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I just see expensive parts.

I hope not, and its great theres companies out there doing mopars favores and such. and you are correct the polly had canted heads.

I just know Ill never be able to afford them.

like I said I just like the good ol wedge design witch works.

Kasey

Re: small block spead port head [Re: Moparnut426] #989506
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Sounds like they will make power, but also sound expensive to an already expensive engine combo. The canted valves and special valve train just makes an added expence.

Ill stick with a mopar WEDGE head design which we all know works. Leave the Chevy valve design to the bowties.

Not hating on what your doing, just not cup of tea.

Kasey


if you keep that logic we will be stuck in the 70s forever. these is nothing chevy about canted valves. it's a race piece for racing. if you want to go fast it costs no matter which brand.

Re: small block spead port head [Re: Quicktree] #989507
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if you keep that logic we will be stuck in the 70s forever. these is nothing chevy about canted valves. it's a race piece for racing. if you want to go fast it costs no matter which brand.





Thats is true. everything costs money. Whats wrong with the 70s maaaan?

I wish I grew up in the 70s

Kasey

Re: small block spead port head [Re: Moparnut426] #989508
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I wish I grew up in the 70s

Kasey


Me too


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Re: small block spead port head [Re: Moparnut426] #989509
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if you keep that logic we will be stuck in the 70s forever. these is nothing chevy about canted valves. it's a race piece for racing. if you want to go fast it costs no matter which brand.





Thats is true. everything costs money. Whats wrong with the 70s maaaan?

I wish I grew up in the 70s

Kasey




Quicktree was in his 40s in the 70s so he was to old to go to KISS and Black Sabbath concerts

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Re: small block spead port head [Re: sixpackgut] #989510
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if you keep that logic we will be stuck in the 70s forever. these is nothing chevy about canted valves. it's a race piece for racing. if you want to go fast it costs no matter which brand.





Thats is true. everything costs money. Whats wrong with the 70s maaaan?

I wish I grew up in the 70s

Kasey




Quicktree was in his 40s in the 70s so he was to old to go to KISS and Black Sabbath concerts


Me too - but I did go to a ZZ Top concert for my #50 B-day.


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Re: small block spead port head [Re: sixpackgut] #989511
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here we go again with the crap where alot of people wants cheap.
speed costs money,how fast do you want to go?

dont think this deal has to be real expensive plenty of cantedvalve parts out there that wont cost an arm and a leg. if rockers are anything close to ford 385series or cleveland or chevy bigblock based it wont cost more than mopars shaftmount stuff.


Re: small block spead port head [Re: 1Fast340] #989512
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We are trying to use a stock rocker!Your right going fast is not cheap but ill bet this,You can make more power with my head out of the box than others ported and polish finished product!I am trying to keep this head at a price that we all can afford!Its not that far away
that i can show some pics!we thought MOPAR NATIONALS would be a good time for a look what you guys think?

Re: small block spead port head [Re: 1Fast340] #989513
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I think the term is "symmetrical port" heads. I applaud your enthusiasm and wish you well. Hopefully you are past the "idea" stage and have some kind of idea what the process will cost, from development to core boxes to a finished product. That, combined with the reality of how many sets you can actually sell will set your price point, not goodwill towards your fellow mopar racer.
I have ties with a major cylinder head manufacturer and cannot convince them that there is enough of a market for mopar heads to offset the cost associated with producing them, much less something exotic that won't appeal to the masses. (exotic meaning "buy alot of other unique parts to facilitate their use") They have all the pieces in place already.....so I am sure your costs will be higher.

Not trying to discourage you, just voicing my perspective.

Good Luck

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