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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes #9819
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wiper motor # is on motor itself. k- frame i have never seen a number on one. but there may be a number somewhere.the k-member for 69 1/2 cars are unigue and just looking at it you can tell. the radiator mounting brackets are date coded and all the 054 69 1/2 cars that i have seen have the small raised numbers. both March and April build dates .earlier hemi 054 radiators had the large numbers. dana 60 has numbers on rt axle tube. again there is another way to spot a 69 from 66- 68 dana just by looking at it? trans is easy enough to find numbers. all glass is date coded i have April car and my glass is dated for April. the road runner horn is date coded, the exhaust manifold is date coded as you already know . my April car has early May horn and exhaust man. date codes. . as well as horn relay and starter relay. my carbs are april 27 and May 2nd and 3rd. headlights are feb 69. ballast resistor also date coded. pvc valve has 69 part number. there are many more things that i can't remember now to look for. my car had very few paint markings on bottom.

Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes #9820
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Steve, sixbbl69



Steve, thanks for your help.

All I'm asking 'original engine' owners to post is:

vin number
line sequence number
Engine Assembly Date (EAD) - if orginal motor -

or in your case (and dannys) trans date code - if original


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The vin is on your fender tag as is the line sequence.

Vin starts with the first 4 digits on the bottom left line (example: WM23) and ends with the last 8 digits on the top right line (example: 9A290930). Insert the 'M' between the two groups for the full 13 digit vin.

The line sequence is also on the top line of the fender tag. It's the middle 6 digit number (example: 293862) just after the first 5 digits.

The trans date is on a machined pad on the right forward side of the transmission. There are 4 numbers which are part of the 10,000 day calendar (see attached).

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sixbbl69,

Thanks for the input and help....and here I thought you disliked date coding clarification!

No problem! I'm impressed and appreciate your opinion regardless of which side of the fence we find ourselves. Whether we agree or disagree is irrelavent. What's important is that in the process of conversing, we both learn.

Please continue to offer up help and info on date coding. It helps prevent that guy who bought a wrecked- motorless car, a few years, ago-- from turning it into a 40K 'numbers matching' fraud.

Information is valuable. Thanks for your help.

BTW- It sounds like from your posts that you had an A12 car at one time but now no longer have it? Or do you have one now? I can't tell. Sometimes I misread the thoughts and intentions of posters.

Best regards,
Coop


Link to Slideshow...turn the music up. http://albums.phanfare.com/isolated/F39VvCq5/1/1491997 ...So when does government's A12 welfare start?..
Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: M_code_Coop] #9821
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Coop,

What is the P/N sequence on the trans that would include the prod. date? If it is part of the PP8332856 number, then the last 4 digits 2856 would refer to May 23. What would 0453 refer to?

Thanks,
Frank


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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: dstryr] #9822
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I think the 0453 means the 453rd trans assembled that day


69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.
Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: sixbbl69] #9823
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the k-member for 69 1/2 cars are unigue and just looking at it you can tell.




does this include 69.5 383 , and hemi bees ? along with 69.5 318 coronet 4 doors ???


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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: JohnRR] #9824
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JOHN, talking about A12 cars so i guess you can cross off Hemi and slant six cars .then maybe you can check and see if your 4-door b-body has a sway bar and if it has one, use it.

Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: sixbbl69] #9825
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JOHN, talking about A12 cars so i guess you can cross off Hemi and slant six cars .then maybe you can check and see if your 4-door b-body has a sway bar and if it has one, use it.




but the k frame YOU keep calling a 69.5 A12 kframe was also installed in 383 cars and 318 cars .


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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: JohnRR] #9826
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John, here is a pic of the distrib tag



69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.
Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #9827
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And a pic of block vin



sorry about poor quality, Im not much of a photographer


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And the dealer invoice



69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.
Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #9829
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sorry about poor quality, Im not much of a photographer




you said that , not me ...


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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: M_code_Coop] #9830
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Here's some VIN's and scheduled build date for some non A12's made at Lynch Rd:
RH 319 9A243347 E63
RM 315 9A243369 E63
RM 324 9A246221 E63
RH 327 9A248906 E44
RM 402 9A252551 E74
WM 408 9A255429 E63
RM 410 9A257478 E63
WM 501 9A265557 E74
RM 505 9A266270 E63
RM 619 9A300194 E63
RP 618 9A300367 E63
RS 709 9A309995 E86
RM 709 9A310417 E63
RM 709 9A310859 E63

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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: 69_SIX_PACK] #9831
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VIN 303025 Block cast date 5-22-69 FRONT PAD E-440, 6-13,HP2 and than there is an a sideways

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Fender tag info K frame dated 1089 2 (70 style bottom) Carbs outboard 0879 list4394 center 1019 list 4392 outboard 1259 list4393-1

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Broadcast sheet car #174 in the regestry My wiper motor and alt are date code correct now but are not original to this car nor is the trans Radiator dated 0959

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Re: Sequence Patterns and Codes [Re: 1fastsixpack] #9834
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Quick question, and excuse the ignorance. For the A12 Bees and Runners the last 6 are the sequence #'s. Would they ever be the same on any 2 A12 cars? For instance, could a WM21,WM23,RM21,or RM23 have the same last 6 in the VIN? Do the sequence #'s go Bird, Bee, Bird, Bee, or no logical order? If this belongs on a seperate post let me know.

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Quick question, and excuse the ignorance. For the A12 Bees and Runners the last 6 are the sequence #'s. Would they ever be the same on any 2 A12 cars? For instance, could a WM21,WM23,RM21,or RM23 have the same last 6 in the VIN? Do the sequence #'s go Bird, Bee, Bird, Bee, or no logical order? If this belongs on a seperate post let me know.




an rm21 and rm23 coming out of the same plant would not have the same last 6 digits in the same model year , same goes for a wm21 and wm23 .

now how things are run in the same plant vs different makes ??? would a coronet and a satellite actually be built on the same production line ??? if so then rm21/23.wm21/23 would never have the same last 6 , if not built on the same line ??? i'd only be speculating .


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would a coronet and a satellite actually be built on the same production line ??? if so then rm21/23.wm21/23 would never have the same last 6 , if not built on the same line ??? i'd only be speculating .




The answer is yes, it was a "B" body line and a Satellite and Coronet would have been built on the same line.

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would a coronet and a satellite actually be built on the same production line ??? if so then rm21/23.wm21/23 would never have the same last 6 , if not built on the same line ??? i'd only be speculating .




The answer is yes, it was a "B" body line and a Satellite and Coronet would have been built on the same line.




that must have made things slightly confusing .

i wonder if there was a sat or coronet that made it to the end of the line with the wrong inteiror ie: coronet with a satellite seats ..


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would a coronet and a satellite actually be built on the same production line ??? if so then rm21/23.wm21/23 would never have the same last 6 , if not built on the same line ??? i'd only be speculating .




The answer is yes, it was a "B" body line and a Satellite and Coronet would have been built on the same line.




that must have made things slightly confusing .

i wonder if there was a sat or coronet that made it to the end of the line with the wrong inteiror ie: coronet with a satellite seats ..




I don't know about that but I can tell you that in the 70s the Dodge dealership that I worked at received a Dart that had a Dart emblem on one side of the car and a Scamp emblem on the other side. It was at the end of the model year and I would imagine that the Dart emblem bin on one side of the line was empty and they don't stop the line for minor problems like that. They just expect that the dealer will catch it, correct it and warranty claim it as we did. Those kinds of things happened on an occasional basis.

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