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Do you change oil before storage or after? #978722
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Living in the frozen north, the old Chrysler is put to bed for the winter Oct/Nov. Going to fire it up today. Do you change the oil just before storage , or wait and add that task to the spring list? I have talked to guys at car shows and have heard good reasons for both. I don't want to change just before storage and again in spring, so what's your opinion?

Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: Skid_Demon] #978723
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Before. Don't want to store it with the built up acids and contaminants in the oil.

Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: MoparforLife] #978724
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I would do it before--oil won't go bad sitting in an oil pan all winter. and it gets rid of exhaust contaminated oil.

worst that will happen is you get some moisture/condensation build up over the freeze and thaw of winter, but the first time you drive it and get everything good and hot, that moisture will evaporate out.


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Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: 70Cuda383] #978725
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What these guys said!

Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: MoparforLife] #978726
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Before. Don't want to store it with the built up acids and contaminants in the oil.




I've always done a oil change/filter like 10 minutes before I store it. Then I change the oil at about 1/2 the mileage in spring.

Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: Dr Lebaron] #978727
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I think that we will all agree that MOST GUYS here ....on anything we drive ....we have fairly fresh oil in even our daily-drivers. So as long as the oil is "clear" and relatively fresh(the last two motors I shut-down - a 440 and 413)...not to worry. Both had a 1000 or so miles on the oil-change.

It is just a personal preference though. I have heard of some that change oil before and after coming out of storage ....

Oh well .. it is their money to spend as they see fit.

Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: dOc - 3.0 !] #978728
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I think that we will all agree that MOST GUYS here ....on anything we drive ....we have fairly fresh oil in even our daily-drivers. So as long as the oil is "clear" and relatively fresh(the last two motors I shut-down - a 440 and 413)...not to worry. Both had a 1000 or so miles on the oil-change.

It is just a personal preference though. I have heard of some that change oil before and after coming out of storage ....

Oh well .. it is their money to spend as they see fit.




I agree. Unless the oil is really due for a change (pick your number, I would pick around 4000 miles) I wouldn't sweat it too much.

That said, Doc---you pick some really twisted avatars at times.

Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #978729
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Why THANKS PacMAN ...... you are mildly TWISTED yurrself !

...an admirable trait ... indeed !

Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: dOc - 3.0 !] #978730
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Is THIS ONE bester ?

Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: dOc - 3.0 !] #978731
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Is THIS ONE bester ?




Yea...I think so. Makes me wonder what you have tied-up in the basement.

Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #978732
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TIED UP ? ...in the basement ? ? ..... that happened in the hot-tub room ... Yeah - she liked being that ...

Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: gd9704] #978733
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Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: 340duster340] #978734
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The Aeroshell engineer give a greal good seminar on oils, the guys above are correct about getting out the oil with the acids in it. Shell actuall makes a pickling oil to preserve an engine at the end of the season. But what they may not know is that the oil needs to be changed probably very soon after the can/jug has been opened. He recommends that at 6 months whether its been ran or not it needs to be changed because the oil will absorb moisture and start to form acids again. This will cause corrision.

Most people dont know that oil also has a 4 year shelf life. This is due to the additives that are put into the oil begin falling out of suspension. They CANNOT be reinstalled by warming the oil up either. When they add the additives, they begin by heating the base oil and start adding each chemical at a specific temperature, at like somewhere near 350, they are finished. The use by date is marked on the case, not on each jug.

Just a little trivia. Tim

Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: astjp2] #978735
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the guys above are correct about getting out the oil with the acids in it. He recommends that at 6 months whether its been ran or not it needs to be changed because the oil will absorb moisture and start to form acids again. This The use by date is marked on the case, not on each jug.

Just a little trivia. Tim


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Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: RapidRobert] #978736
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I missed a few things, the shelf life is 4 years on a case of oil, and if you run your engine during its down time, you need to get the oil temp to above 150 for an hour to get the moisture out. My bad. I need to read my post before posting ...Tim

Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: astjp2] #978737
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The use by date is marked on the case, not on each jug.






I have never seen this data ....do you have an example ?

There have been PLENTY of oil-topics on-here and I have NEVER seen someone mention any type of automotive lubrication product having an expiration-date.

Re: Do you change oil before storage or after? [Re: astjp2] #978738
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The Aeroshell engineer give a greal good seminar on oils, the guys above are correct about getting out the oil with the acids in it. Shell actuall makes a pickling oil to preserve an engine at the end of the season. But what they may not know is that the oil needs to be changed probably very soon after the can/jug has been opened. He recommends that at 6 months whether its been ran or not it needs to be changed because the oil will absorb moisture and start to form acids again. This will cause corrision.

Most people dont know that oil also has a 4 year shelf life. This is due to the additives that are put into the oil begin falling out of suspension. They CANNOT be reinstalled by warming the oil up either. When they add the additives, they begin by heating the base oil and start adding each chemical at a specific temperature, at like somewhere near 350, they are finished. The use by date is marked on the case, not on each jug.

Just a little trivia. Tim




Good points!

The shelf life of motor oil varies somewhat per manufacturer, but it's somewhere between 3-to-5 years given the oil is properly stored. For example: Store lubricants in a cool, clean, and dry indoor area with an ideal storage temperature of between 45F and 80F.

Also good notes on how additives are properly blended into the oil by the manufacture. This is why it's not a good idea to dump aftermarket motor oil additives into your crankcase and why no auto manufacturer condones the use of aftermarket motor oil additives.








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