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Re: 650 hp in a street car. [Re: 73cuda340] #956941
03/26/11 09:22 PM
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Sebring, Florida
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and the engine.




What size hemi? 528?


Nope...432 but it is a handful on the street. Everyone talks about horse power but it's the torque that gets the car launched. A lot of horse power or torque on the street is wasted. What are you going to do with it? Get a bunch of tickets? Have it impounded? Loose it at the Sheriff's sale? Be smart and use the power at the track, not on the street.

Re: 650 hp in a street car. [Re: 73cuda340] #956942
03/27/11 12:17 AM
03/27/11 12:17 AM
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Blairsden, CA
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A big inch hemi can make 650 easily...if youve got the bucks & someone who knows hemis, to build it. A friend has a 500 in low deck twin turbonthat makes 1200 hp. ..With ac & 410'sj 5spd, all in his 70 'Cuda. Super street friendly. And there not too many street cads fhat will hang with it. Cruises 65 @ 2500 rpm. Turbo a big inch low deck for almost the price of a well built hemi, with all the good stuff. Im twin turboing my 68, 3100 lb 4spd low deck cuda..

Re: 650 hp in a street car. [Re: Keith Black®] #956943
03/27/11 12:50 AM
03/27/11 12:50 AM
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Great Neck,LI,new york
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You all have me frightened now. my street build will be around 1,500hp/1,100 ftlbs. but power climbs higher in the rpm range ~650hp@4,500 climbs from there
6spd manual should keep rpms down on cruise.




Those numbers are great,but is that on 92 octane pump fuel??With my latest freshen up and new SV1 carbs,I should have 8ooish HP on pump gas and with a pulley change and some 116 octane an easy 1000 plus

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Re: 650 hp in a street car. [Re: hemi-itis] #956944
03/27/11 06:57 AM
03/27/11 06:57 AM
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QLD Australia
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Nice

Will be running on E85 here. Also twin/intercoolers.


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Re: 650 hp in a street car. [Re: Keith Black®] #956945
03/27/11 10:02 AM
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Great Neck,LI,new york
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Nice

Will be running on E85 here. Also twin/intercoolers.



Sounds fantastic,hope you make up to this side of the word,cheers!


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Re: 650 hp in a street car. [Re: hemi-itis] #956946
03/28/11 11:34 PM
03/28/11 11:34 PM
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clarks summit pa
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How hard would it be to get this car to hook? Im not expecting the car to dead hook at all, but how do you guys think it would be with the 275/50/15 drag radials, super stock springs (or caltracs) and sub frame connectors?


1973 Cuda 528 all aluminum Hemi, 4 speed, 3.23 Sure-Grip, (JA5) Silver Frost Metallic 1973 Challenger Rallye 340 1985 W150 Power Ram prospector 1986 Camaro IROC-Z 305 tpi
Re: 650 hp in a street car. [Re: 73cuda340] #956947
03/29/11 03:46 AM
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How hard would it be to get this car to hook? Im not expecting the car to dead hook at all, but how do you guys think it would be with the 275/50/15 drag radials, super stock springs (or caltracs) and sub frame connectors?


Radials and a four speed ain't going to work together, trust me on that Radials do not recover worth a hoot once they start to spin, you'll be way better off buying another set of rims and put a set of stick shift 9 inch wide slicks on them for racing That or try a set of the biggest size you can fit under your car of the M/T ET Street tires (bias ply, not radials)Put them on the widest rims you can run also


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Re: 650 hp in a street car. [Re: Cab_Burge] #956948
03/29/11 07:18 PM
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Airdrie, AB
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If I knew now when I was building my stroker - I would have skipped it and built a new 3G Hemi. With some minor tweaks (cam, heads) it puts down 470 RWHP, runs an 11 sec quarter, and can still manage close to 25 mpg on the hwy.

Subtact 1000 lbs from my SRT Charger to my Satellite, and it would be an amazing ride.

That said, my stroker is just above 600 HP, has a Hydraulic cam cut on a wide LSA, idles at 800 rpm, 11:1 comp - runs on pump 91, and is more streetable IMO then a 500 HP typically built 440.

It's virtually 100% street - and my grandma could drive it.


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2016 Challenger Hellcat - Holy Hell
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Re: 650 hp in a street car. [Re: 73cuda340] #956949
03/29/11 08:49 PM
03/29/11 08:49 PM
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Benton, IL.
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How hard would it be to get this car to hook? Im not expecting the car to dead hook at all, but how do you guys think it would be with the 275/50/15 drag radials, super stock springs (or caltracs) and sub frame connectors?




You may try some 275/60 DRs. More side height may help......a little. And the Cal-Tracs are the way to go.

I think you are right that you won't dead hook, but with practice and the right set-up, low 1.5 60s should be achievable. My Cuda will 60' a 1.5 flat with DRs. No reason you shouldn't be able to also.

But it will take lot of practice. Especially with the stick.


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Re: 650 hp in a street car. [Re: Cab_Burge] #956950
03/29/11 10:12 PM
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How hard would it be to get this car to hook? Im not expecting the car to dead hook at all, but how do you guys think it would be with the 275/50/15 drag radials, super stock springs (or caltracs) and sub frame connectors?


Radials and a four speed ain't going to work together, trust me on that Radials do not recover worth a hoot once they start to spin, you'll be way better off buying another set of rims and put a set of stick shift 9 inch wide slicks on them for racing That or try a set of the biggest size you can fit under your car of the M/T ET Street tires (bias ply, not radials)Put them on the widest rims you can run also




See, I told ya about the radials...Cab_Burge knows his stuff.

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