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Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? #937974
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Cuda will be going for low compression 340 to a 550+ hp 418. I already have M/T Drag Radials, but have been recommended Caltracs. I'm a novice, so who here runs them? Are they worth the $$$ and hassle? Is there a better alternative? Not crazy about the traction bar look, but if it's necessary, I'll do what I need to for traction.

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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: OA5599] #937975
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All the Cal Trac users that figured out how to make them work will tell you they are great, all the SS spring users that made them work will tell you they are way better than something like Cal Tracs that they haven't treid yet The guys that had SS springs, then Cal Tracs and now ladder bars(installed properly with a good set of rear shocks) will tell you ladder bars are the best they treid Let the fun began


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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: OA5599] #937976
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definitely worth it. Once we installed them, the car was not as violent as the Mopar super stock springs and the car left very square. Go for some good shocks as well, such as AFCO Double adjustable shocks. Keep in mind that our 69 Cuda is a little more track oriented as well. Stock leaf spring location, but caltracs and split mono leafs, AFCO Double adjustables in the rear, single adjustable shocks in the front, lite torsion bars (Mopar Drag bars) 28X9 Hoosier slicks. We also use a fairly budget 904 trans with a low gear set and a good 8" Turbo Action Converter and the car drives good and hooks dead up at the track with a 1.37 60 foot time best. Average is 1.40. I would say yes to the Caltracs and split monoleafs. They alone wont be the answer to any traction woes however. Its the total combination of carefully chosen parts.


10.53 @ 125mph. 1.37 60 foot. Caltracs and Monoleafs, AFCO shocks.

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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: Cab_Burge] #937977
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All the Cal Trac users that figured out how to make them work will tell you they are great, all the SS spring users that made them work will tell you they are way better than something like Cal Tracs that they haven't treid yet The guys that had SS springs, then Cal Tracs and now ladder bars(installed properly with a good set of rear shocks) will tell you ladder bars are the best they treid Let the fun began




but would ad that they are the best you can do while still keeping leaf springs. They are not the best suspension system ever though, but they do work well.


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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: Guitar Jones] #937978
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well for the money and time to put them in ,
say no do not do it
if youre running more than 10 just spend money on set of ladders
coils or laddrs and sliders,
if i had to spend 1300 dollars just go with the ladders be done
if not stay with super stock springs!!
been there done it

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: dennismopar73] #937979
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the best u can get,by far for the money...o yea try and drive on the street w a 4 link or a ladder bar car! 7 sec cars w cal's on em

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: fishy340] #937980
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they work for me!

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: fishy340] #937981
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I'm sorry awbdart,,
but nope they aint,
if you are running enough hp to upgrade over ss springs
money being money,, caltracks is $1.100-1.300.00 $
you can sneak set of ladders undr a car for far less
250$ for the bars and slider and keep stock springs!!!
and be better than cals
that is a fact!!
but if he is ruuning a basic street car ss springs will be
all he needs ,
ss spring will run in the 8 -9 sec zone without any hassel!!
i have run stock springs at 11,0 s
there is alot of stupid things i have done thru out the years
waste money is one of them
there is alot to be said about the front end of the car
and making the car leave than tons of money spent on the rear
for no good reason

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: dennismopar73] #937982
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I hope they are after hearing good reports im installing them on my ride for this spring along with leaf spring sliders


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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: dennismopar73] #937983
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I'm sorry awbdart,,
but nope they aint,
if you are running enough hp to upgrade over ss springs
money being money,, caltracks is $1.100-1.300.00 $
you can sneak set of ladders undr a car for far less
250$ for the bars and slider and keep stock springs!!!
and be better than cals
that is a fact!!
but if he is ruuning a basic street car ss springs will be
all he needs ,
ss spring will run in the 8 -9 sec zone without any hassel!!
i have run stock springs at 11,0 s
there is alot of stupid things i have done thru out the years
waste money is one of them
there is alot to be said about the front end of the car
and making the car leave than tons of money spent on the rear
for no good reason




How are you spending $1100-1300 on Caltracs?....I used stock springs...Ranchos at $65 each and Caltracs on my Duster that ran 10.60's with a 1.40 short...Probably had a shade over $500 in the whole deal with no welding and a bolt in job...And yes they worked great.



5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: dennismopar73] #937984
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I'm sorry awbdart,,
but nope they aint,
if you are running enough hp to upgrade over ss springs
money being money,, caltracks is $1.100-1.300.00 $
you can sneak set of ladders undr a car for far less
250$ for the bars and slider and keep stock springs!!!
and be better than cals
that is a fact!!
but if he is ruuning a basic street car ss springs will be
all he needs ,
ss spring will run in the 8 -9 sec zone without any hassel!!
i have run stock springs at 11,0 s
there is alot of stupid things i have done thru out the years
waste money is one of them
there is alot to be said about the front end of the car
and making the car leave than tons of money spent on the rear
for no good reason




where do you get caltracs are $1,100?? This was for a search for a '69 cuda.
http://calvertracing.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=45


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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #937985
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I think he is talking about caltracs and mon springs

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: sturmenater] #937986
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you are correct
and yes it was 1,100 dollars
we gad stock hd springs on the car ,
went to ss spring then to cals
we actually lost 60 from ss to cals
and went to bigger motor!!
2 diffrent converts

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: dennismopar73] #937987
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i'd love to see an 8 or 9 sec ss leaf spring car!! w a 8,9 or even a 10" tire..please show me?

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: dennismopar73] #937988
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you are correct
and yes it was 1,100 dollars
we gad stock hd springs on the car ,
went to ss spring then to cals
we actually lost 60 from ss to cals
and went to bigger motor!!
2 diffrent converts




The Caltracs work best with a set of worn-out stock springs...or the monos. Mine hooked great with the stock springs...left side just touching...right a half turn of pre-load. Ranchos were set at 4 on a 5way shock.

Dennis...what spring did you use with the Caltracs?...how fast was the car?


5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: OA5599] #937989
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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: Eric] #937991
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thanks eric for asking
this car is a 67 coronet
440 tweek to 474 now 8 ta conv 4200
on alk, dominator.
car started life as a 12.20 car 30 over 440, full stock inter say 3800 # w 430 gears 29 tire
we put some work in it put new hd springs on it
it then ran 12.0s sixty 1.67 -1.70
since those days it now has the 474 in it
410 gear same tire 29,
running alk and as only ran the best of 11.0 s
at 123 plus mph and 60 has been in the 1.67-1.68 range
we have 60 better with the ss springs at a 1.59
there is alot going on with this combo as you can tell by
the frustration in writting
this car should be running i think alot faster
as the mph suggest
as for cal tracks the money we spent vs the money we spent on ss
we do not see any pickup any where for that
we can rebolt the ss back on this car and have
and duplicated the 1.59 60 , so idono?

Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: B1KILLER] #937992
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Re: Anyone run Caltracs? Worth it? [Re: DemonDust] #937993
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if i'm not mistaken mancini is running a special or was on the cal tracs and mono spring setup for around 5 hun.

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