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Small Paint bubbles problem after using Poorboy wax/QD #930493
02/16/11 06:34 PM
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Hi, I have many years used turtle wax and sonax pollish on the paint and never had problems with thise products. Last summer I for the first time use the poorboy products red canuba wax and the Quick Detailer Plus. Now I have observed many small paint bobbles on the car.
Question: Is it a well know problem with poorboy product? or does the paint have another issue?

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Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: AAR70] #930494
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I would say paint has another issue! Tell us more about the paint?

Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: AAR70] #930495
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RUST under the paint. You have problems my friend.

Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: Challenger] #930496
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I would say paint has another issue! Tell us more about the paint?



I never have seen wax or polish cause paint to blister. How old is the paint?

Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: copchaser] #930497
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Here is some picturs of the front fender and rear spoiler. There are million of small bobbles on top area of the car .There is nothing in side the trunk and undercarriage
The car is painted in Michigan 1998.
Poorboy product is not well known here in Denmark . I have wax on five time befor winter storage.
What is the Poorboy reputation in us?

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Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: AAR70] #930498
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Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: AAR70] #930499
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Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: AAR70] #930500
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poorboy products are premier detailing products here...

I dont see how a carnuba, or any carnuba could have caused that


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Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: shanker] #930501
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did you use SODA? for the stripping process?? jc

Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: 68427vette] #930502
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Looks like solvent popping to me. Caused by solvents being trapped in paint/clearcoat.

Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: 68427vette] #930503
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did you use SODA? for the stripping process?? jc




That would be my guess! But there are some other things that could have caused it as well. Besides soda blasting, 1) rust convertor
2) wiping metal or paint with lacquer thinner 3)using a metal prep unless you know how to neutralize it properly and 4) self etching primer.
The solvent popping would have happened sooner when it was painted not appear 12 years later!

Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: Challenger] #930504
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did you use SODA? for the stripping process?? jc




That would be my guess! But there are some other things that could have caused it as well. Besides soda blasting, 1) rust convertor
2) wiping metal or paint with lacquer thinner 3)using a metal prep unless you know how to neutralize it properly and 4) self etching primer.
The solvent popping would have happened sooner when it was painted not appear 12 years later!




I agree,I will only add that it can also be caused by moisture, and wax or polish is the last thing on earth to blame.

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If the car was ever covered with plastic or a tarp or waxed in the first few years after painting that will happen. Fresh paint needs to breathe for a long time to cure

Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after using Poorboy wa [Re: demon] #930506
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If the car was ever covered with plastic or a tarp or waxed in the first few years after painting that will happen. Fresh paint needs to breathe for a long time to cure




Under the stripe kit is there non reaction ,also the valance panels,panels and door frames is okay.

I have never used wax or polish on the black paint of the car and there are non reaction there too .

The bobbles problem is only visible where I have use the wax in cobination with QDplus.

Here in Denmark I living very close to the sea ,and the humiditi is high -between 60-80 percent in summer and lower in winter timer.


Is it possible I have made some kinda cover with the wax/polish overdosis ,so the paint canīt breathe and then the bobbles has startet?

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Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: 469runner] #930507
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Looks like solvent popping to me. Caused by solvents being trapped in paint/clearcoat.




I agree!

Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: 9 Sec Phill] #930508
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Looks like solvent popping to me. Caused by solvents being trapped in paint/clearcoat.




I agree!




Guys---this is a 13 year old paint job. Suddenly solvent pops??? Don't think so.

Re: Small Paint bubbles problem after used poorboy wax [Re: Challenger] #930509
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did you use SODA? for the stripping process?? jc




That would be my guess! But there are some other things that could have caused it as well. Besides soda blasting, 1) rust convertor
2) wiping metal or paint with lacquer thinner 3)using a metal prep unless you know how to neutralize it properly and 4) self etching primer.
The solvent popping would have happened sooner when it was painted not appear 12 years later!




Guess they didnt read my last line!







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