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Racers / Starting Line Games
#930044
02/15/11 11:45 PM
02/15/11 11:45 PM
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Tucson, Arizona
clonestocker
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What kind of games have you played against an opponent?
This weekend at the track as a spectator and saw the great thing happen and about fell out of the bleachers. A racer known for playing game in Super Pro (11.99 car used to use a throttle stop on the big end /stuff like that)got burned! He was racing a 7.20 Dragster and was waiting for the dragster to do his burnout cross the line and back up. The dragster driver had something else on his mind. He did a 4ft burnout and drove into the lights and lit both bulbs. The other driver had'nt even started his burnout yet. Needless to say it worked. The other driver went RED! matt
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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games
[Re: Eric]
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02/16/11 01:39 AM
02/16/11 01:39 AM
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Crizila
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Ever heard of courtesy staging? The group I race with adheres to it. They should make it manditory at all tracks and events. It would end the game playing.
Fastest 300
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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games
[Re: Crizila]
#930048
02/16/11 02:09 AM
02/16/11 02:09 AM
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Plymouth Meeting, PA
bigtimeauto
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If someone Dbl bulbs me they are gonna be sitting there for a loooooooong time.
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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games
[Re: Crizila]
#930052
02/16/11 12:04 PM
02/16/11 12:04 PM
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The Swamp
MegaDart
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If someone Dbl bulbs me they are gonna be sitting there for a loooooooong time.
Not to worry with our group. You double bulb your opponent, you go home. That is made very clear at the drivers meeting. No exceptions. Once you are both pre-staged, your on the timer with the stage light - 7 seconds. Everyone knows exactly what to expect. I think it's one of the reasons why the RT's are so good - and consistant ( except for mine of course  )
that is incorrect at least around here. One racer must be STAGED in order to activate the 7sec countdown. What they will do around here is wait till you prestage, then they jump in light both bulbs then back out, your timer is on at that point.
I LOVE playing starting line games. It's as much fun as the race, remember this is a GAME. Like bluffing in poker.
Although I usually lose after a burndown I have been in my share. In fact, I chose to get in one at Nitro Jam. Had a very good SuperGas racer in 1st round, he is also a friend. I had run 9.900 on my last tt but felt I needed an advantage to beat him. As we both sat there I could see him talking with his crewcheif (headsets) about what to do. Neither of us were moving then he went in about 2" and stopped. I never moved. Being a National event I started to think they might get pizzed at us so I went in. He had decided the same thing but I lit first and this threw him off as he likes to stage last. -.006  on his side, good thing too cause I missed the tree. Ironically neither of us saw the redlite and raced to the finish. He was about 10' in front of me so I dumped scrubbing 7mph, ran 9.897 to his 9.91 but had already won! 
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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games
[Re: clonestocker]
#930053
02/16/11 12:04 PM
02/16/11 12:04 PM
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toledo, ohio
plasticfantastic
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4 foot burnout and stage is good, wish i could have seen that.
everyone has thier own procedure, my personal thought is if someone can influence you to change your procedure, if they can make you deviate from your normal routine, then they accomplished what they wanted to do, its not an advantage to get a better light or anything, its an opportunity to make you put extra thoughts in your head in the hopes that breaking up your procedure will make you mess up by forgetting something, or any number of things.
if they are staged right away, maybe they had a mistake and went in by accident? i personally cant stand the ones that flip it in reverse and back out once staged, i think that should be an automatic lose.
i dont like games, if someone thinks they are playing a game while racing me, it doesnt matter to me, I still try to do the same thing each time regardless if they are double bulbing me or anything, i dont feel rushed... i'm lucky that mike runs the car on e85, so its easy to keep at temp no matter how long on the line, run an alternator, seat is comfy, got a fan i can turn on... when its time, i can roll it in stage, press the button and stand on it and i'm good to go.
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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games
[Re: MegaDart]
#930054
02/16/11 01:53 PM
02/16/11 01:53 PM
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Crizila
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If someone Dbl bulbs me they are gonna be sitting there for a loooooooong time.
Not to worry with our group. You double bulb your opponent, you go home. That is made very clear at the drivers meeting. No exceptions. Once you are both pre-staged, your on the timer with the stage light - 7 seconds. Everyone knows exactly what to expect. I think it's one of the reasons why the RT's are so good - and consistant ( except for mine of course )
I LOVE playing starting line games.
Sorry, but I don't take your view. Yes, the first to stage ( turn on the second bulb ) starts the timer. After you turn on the first bulb, there aint no backing out. With the first bulb, you are telling the starter you are ready to race. You back out, you go home. It's all about competing, but in a friendly enviornment. Also, at ADRA events, you are random paired by the ADRA manager for each round. First name called = left lane and second name = right lane. Ether driver, if he doesn't like his lane, can ask for a coin flip for lane choice. Bye run is random pick also. I personnelly like it. When I run at events outside the ADRA (where some delight in game playing and they think it gives them the edge ), I pay little attention to the other lane ( often don't even know what the car is ). I just follow my normal routine. If I can cut a good light and run the number, I will win. The rest doesn't matter. 
Fastest 300
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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games
[Re: plasticfantastic]
#930055
02/16/11 01:57 PM
02/16/11 01:57 PM
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South Lyon, Michigan
6bblRoadrunner
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I remember one of my first races back in the early '80s up at Central Michigan (now Mid-Michigan Motorplex). Sunday bracket race. I was in my just completed '70 BB Duster...running 10.90's. If you're familiar with this track, the staging lanes make a hard left, then dump into the water box (this was before they had the tower going over the water box). Anyway, I'm in the left staging lane pullin up to make my left turn, and this tool in the right lane cuts me off so he can run the left lane. I was a little pissed, but oh well. Took my time doing my burnout and staging while he waited. We both stage, and I get the green (he's running an 8 sec car). I probably get to maybe the 1/8th mile and start looking for him...all I see is smoke back at the starting line. Karma....
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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games
[Re: Crizila]
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02/16/11 02:46 PM
02/16/11 02:46 PM
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i not a gamer either, i run my lane , only thing that distracks me is stupid starters come over look at youre car, walk out in front , mop something make you back out , ,then put you right back in, walk over see if you got youre belts on , that bothers me you be up there, doing the staging stuff , this guy walks up to the car looks thru the window, walks back, and way you go 
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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games
[Re: Crizila]
#930059
02/16/11 02:48 PM
02/16/11 02:48 PM
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Sweet Home Alabama
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Don't mind the games I run alcohol  But having to flip for lane choice  I say the faster car should have it,the fair way of doing it would be who ever gets in it 1st.But then you have everyone lining up behind each other  Makes the race faster and ends all for lane choice. You should a least have some "Perks" if you got $75,000 car and running a $7,500 car. I also like the racers that are holding back # against me,I dare them to use them 
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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games
[Re: MRMOPAR622]
#930060
02/16/11 02:53 PM
02/16/11 02:53 PM
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Walton's Mountain, Pa
Steve1118
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Games are for kids. A good, experienced driver is not going to be rattled, so what's the point?
Myself, I could care less. I'll light the prestage and wait for the opponent to ligth his. Then, I don't car, I'll stage when I'm ready. If the other guy wants to play games, have it. Couldn't care less.
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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games
[Re: Steve1118]
#930061
02/16/11 03:34 PM
02/16/11 03:34 PM
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Rock Springs
Bob_Coomer
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I dont see the problem...
who cares if he runs up there and turns on both bulbs before the other guy starts his burn out. No timers can start.
He should have just took his time with the burn out and staged the car when he was ready.
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Re: Racers / Starting Line Games
[Re: MRMOPAR622]
#930062
02/16/11 07:45 PM
02/16/11 07:45 PM
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Kentucky
sc301v
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I also like the racers that are holding back # against me,I dare them to use them
Dont race many big buck races then do ya???
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I hate game players, I do get even 
I try to do the same thing each and every time. 