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Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 #928280
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Need input on what system you have used and the pros and cons I'm looking for dependability for street strip use.

Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: paul69cuda] #928281
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If you're a DIYer, I suggest MegaSquirt 3

Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: paul69cuda] #928282
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FAST XFI

It has a lot of function the turbo nuts require, and the new software will now learn the map somewhat...


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

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Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: JonsGottaDusta] #928283
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If you're a DIYer, I suggest MegaSquirt 3




I'll second what John said. MS3 has everything you would need. Fraction of the cost of a FAST setup, but you have to be willing to do some homework and tune it yourself (without using VEAL in the latest TunerStudio that is).

Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: Pat_Whalen] #928284
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If the megasquirt were the best one, it would propably be used by the pros too. As far as the best goes, my wote would be MoTec. We have Autronic SM4 in ours, it's not bad either.


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Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: jyrki] #928285
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If the megasquirt were the best one, it would propably be used by the pros too. As far as the best goes, my wote would be MoTec. We have Autronic SM4 in ours, it's not bad either.





When you say "pros", I assume you're talking about race teams. MS3 has been well documented in a number of circle, mud, and drag vehicles. Like I said, it's not the easiest system to work with, but at the end of construction, install, and tuning, you'll know much more about the science of fuel injection than with any of the other systems that cost monumentally more. I guess it's a preference.

Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: Pat_Whalen] #928286
02/17/11 02:00 PM
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I'd have to sell my car to buy the MoTec but I do know an awesome tuner for that package.


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Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: paul69cuda] #928287
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Really depends on your Budget and what your after!!

MegaSquirt is some what cheap but you better be an Electronics, Software, Tuning, Soldering and Wiring nut because it comes as 100's of pieces in a box that you have to assemble. You can get semi pre assembled units, But if you do that the price quickly approaches that of a basic FAST system.

Most of the Pro Drag racers run either FAST or BigStuff3.

I personally have BS-3 because it has what FAST considers options as standard features and was actually cheaper than a FAST system spec'd out Identically the same.

I haven't gotten mine up and running as of yet.

But I do have a buddy that has run both FAST and BS-3 on his Outlaw 10.5 car and he likes them both about the same.

His only complaint since he switched over to BS-3 is that it can be finicky about transferring data sometimes.

Really about the least expensive and most adaptable for street driving would be a FORD MAF system.

There is a company called MASS-EFI and that is all their system is. I personally think their Kits are a Bit expensive knowing what the hardware costs are.

You can buy all the parts directly from FORD Motor sports rather reasonable and use SCT-Flash to tune it.

You could even go as far as getting the computer and wiring harness from a junk yard.

Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: DakFink] #928288
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The new Holley HP and dominator setup looks real good and I have seen some good reviews as well.

Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: TrxR] #928289
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I use Fast and I have heard great things about Motec


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Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: DakFink] #928290
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MegaSquirt is some what cheap but you better be an Electronics, Software, Tuning, Soldering and Wiring nut because it comes as 100's of pieces in a box that you have to assemble. You can get semi pre assembled units, But if you do that the price quickly approaches that of a basic FAST system.




You can get fully assembly MS3 boxes for $540 bucks. No assembly required on the EMS unit itself.

The "Basic" FAST EZ EFI kit is $1,800.

I'll be the first to admit that Megasquirt is not for everyone. As you point out, it takes a large amount of patience to learn the system and assemble it if you're so inclined. Tuning isn't the easiest thing in the world, but it gives you a new respect for the main induction system on your ride. It's just like anything else. How nuts do you want to be about your engine build? Go to the fastest speed shop in town, pay out the nose and get an engine that you can drop in and know nothing about? Or farm out machining and learn the proper procedures for assembly?

Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: Pat_Whalen] #928291
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I built my megasquirt 2 myself....took quite a few hours, but was incredibly enjoyable......now this was a few months ago but work has really been busy and being a family business has hampered me getting it installed....

I came from a very old accel gen7 and ending up having communication problems and just was about to pull my hair out and figured for what I could just buy a replacemnet com cable for the gen 7 I could purchase the whole MS2.....and that still may have not been the problem....

I will hopefully know soon how the MS2 works.

I've got a post a couple pages back that shows some good pics of the MS2 board I built.


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Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: Kam*Kuda] #928292
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Quote:

I use Fast and I have heard great things about Motec




this is a good thread , I'm looking for the right ignition/EFI setup myself for my procharged EFI (16 injectors staged sequential E85) setup.
Just checked out the Motec options, gotta say their systems look really comprehensive & extensible.


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Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: Keith Black®] #928293
02/22/11 06:48 PM
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The Motec can do everything short of changing your oil and doing the dishes. The downside is you pay dearly for it's capabilities.
That is the system of choice for many high end tuners.


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Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: feets] #928294
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I love the imput I am leaning to the fast efi it will run around 2600.00 for everything
Accept the intake tb and fuel rails which I want the edelbrock pro flo xt stuff.

Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: paul69cuda] #928295
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Is this DUAL FUEL capable ?

Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: dOoC] #928296
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I believe it is I am planning on running e 85

Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: paul69cuda] #928297
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"Turbo will be easiest, and at the HP level will also be easiest on parts. Spend the money to do it right, and you can build a 500 HP street motor that will live a long and happy life, and probably with a very basic short block." Those words must have left a bad taste in his mouth!
Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: paul69cuda] #928298
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I believe it is I am planning on running e 85




What I mean by dual-fuel is separate tanks of fuel .... normal operation regular gas ... under boost - premium or race OR E-85.

Re: Best fuel inject system for turbo 440 [Re: dOoC] #928299
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I believe it is I am planning on running e 85




What I mean by dual-fuel is separate tanks of fuel .... normal operation regular gas ... under boost - premium or race OR E-85.




Basically any system can be setup for that if it supports staged injection. There's even guys doing that with the cheap megasquirt systems.

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