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slave cylinder on the A833 #909286
01/20/11 08:02 AM
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does anyone sell a kit for a hydraulic slave cylinder for the a833 other than the expensive one from brewsters performance?

Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: dangina] #909287
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Bigblockdart.com used to have a page one how to make a bracket that would allow an early Dodge truck slave cylinder to operate the clutch fork on an A833. Link is now broken.


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Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: dangina] #909288
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After a TON of aggravation, I came up with a cheap solution on my own.

1. $20 slave from AutoZone
2. Home made bracket




Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: Commando1] #909289
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Quote:

After a TON of aggravation, I came up with a cheap solution on my own.

1. $20 slave from AutoZone
2. Home made bracket









you have a part number for that slave unit?


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Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: ChargerDude70] #909290
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you have a part number for that slave unit?




http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/D...fier=69739_0_0_

It has a 7/8" bore so it has the oomph you need.

Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: Commando1] #909291
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That is a great solution, I may copy that in the future!

Did you have any problems bleeding it out since the bleeder is on the bottom?

Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: Supercuda] #909292
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Cool idea

This was the bellhousing I used years ago to put a T5 in my old Oz Charger. You can see they made it with a setup like you used in mind

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Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: OzHemi] #909293
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Cool idea



Thanks. What I learned about hydraulic clutching over the last 9 mo. has been eye-opening. At first it was:
"no way would I ever go hydraulic (the purist in me), but I'll research it anyway"
to:
"Why didn't I do this from Day 1(another neurosis torpedoed)"

Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: rabid scott] #909294
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Did you have any problems bleeding it out since the bleeder is on the bottom?



You notice that the one I gave you the link to has the bleeder screw on top. That's the correct no.

Mine with the bleeder on the bottom wasn't a problem though. There's really no chamber for air to really get trapped.

The beauty about this 20 dollar gem is even if you run an old style big clunky starter, it will fit.

Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: Commando1] #909295
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There's only one more variable to be worried about: Does it have enough stroke?

Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: DrCharles] #909296
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This is fantastic.... Now how do you get the other end to work?
What do you do for the pedal to clutch/master cylinder unit? More info please!

Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: DrCharles] #909297
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There's only one more variable to be worried about: Does it have enough stroke?



It has MORE than enough throw. In fact, you have to install a clutch pedal stop to limit travel.
I drilled a hole in the floor (in line with the clutch pedal arm, of course), welded a 5/8" nut to it, and threaded in a 5/8 bolt and double nutted it at the correct throw distance. It's adjustable that way.

Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: Kern Dog] #909298
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This is fantastic.... Now how do you get the other end to work?
What do you do for the pedal to clutch/master cylinder unit? More info please!




For the hydraulic clutch master cylinder I used this one (mounted directly to the firewall) from AutoZone for 30 bucks:
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/D...ier=133597_0_0_





So, you're now in for under fifty bucks and they have a lifetime replacement warrantee.

I simply attached the rod to the clutch pedal with a shortened hitch pin.


Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: Commando1] #909299
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I want to amend this whole thing with one point.

The setup worked flawlessly except in my case my fork bracket and fork bracket mount turned out to be too worn. I was about to buy new ones when I said W.T.eff, I'm going to go for the whole enchilada and try a hydraulic throw out bearing from Tilton (through Summit). The bearing arrived in two days. The bearing to transmission mount is back ordered until mid Feb.

So, for that part of the overall project, I'm on hold for a month.

Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: Commando1] #909300
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Quote:


Thanks. What I learned about hydraulic clutching over the last 9 mo. has been eye-opening. At first it was:
"no way would I ever go hydraulic (the purist in me), but I'll research it anyway"
to:
"Why didn't I do this from Day 1(another neurosis torpedoed)"




Oh how terrible it is

I will have to agree though.

This is a cheap thrills solution! I love it!


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Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: kilroy] #909301
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I have done nothing new. Everything I have learned was taken from bits and pieces I got while Googling and lots of people giving me small bits and pieces.
Seems like a ton of guys have perfected the ideal solution to 1 certain aspect of the overall job. I'm just gathering up in one place in the Reader's Digest version. I didn't come up with anything new myself.
Basically it's a system that works better than any professional kits out there for 1/4 the cost.
I originally designed it for cable. Every Mustang Forum devotes 50% of it's topics to fixing their cable system. Junk, they say.

Re: slave cylinder on the A833 [Re: Commando1] #909302
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Excellent! thanks Commando.
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