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Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: BradH] #883877 12/20/10 02:03 PM 12/20/10 02:03 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,228 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,228 Bend,OR USA	Quote: Quote: I think the key thing that helped his program was the 6 pak Edelbrock STR which was really a tunnel ram. I thought Rossi used the Weiand 6-bbl intake, not the STR... The Weiand fits the "tunnel ram" description better than the STR, too. I know that one of his test cars, Mike Piazza car did. Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: Cab_Burge] #883878 12/20/10 02:26 PM 12/20/10 02:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,476 G gtx69 super gas
gtx69 super gas G Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,476	Like this one 6368250-CopyofHPIM0154.JPG (543 downloads)

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: sixpakdodge] #883879 12/20/10 02:35 PM 12/20/10 02:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,060 Western New York sixpackbee master
sixpackbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,060 Western New York	Quote: The Mirada is still in Rossi's colors and being raced on the east coast There were 2 Miradas. One was a SG car that had some coverage in the magazines of the day and a Stock Eliminator car that Paul had a little do with but was raced out of his shop. It ended up in Minnesota and a friend of mine bought it and repainted in the "Rossi" colors. He sold it to the current owner about 5 years ago who does race it on both circuits nad is very compettitive with it in J & K/SA. 1959 Bugeye Sprite 1967 Charger Black L code 1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner 1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM 1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96 1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car 1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85 1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96 1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13 1971 MG Midget 1971 Road Runner RM23H GW3, A57 1972 Road Runner RM23P FY1, D21

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: sixpackbee] #883880 12/20/10 02:46 PM 12/20/10 02:46 PM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 42 England P pete walton member
pete walton member P Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 42 England	Here is a magazine article from back in the day when Sylvia Hauser raced the car.Her ex husband Jeff Hauser still has the six pack set up from the car, i think....He runs Hauser racing ,a race car fabricaters in the UK...He told me that that car was very light , window glass was thin, all the panels were VERY thin .... 6368277-36128_1517688148053_1409975366_1438670_3094826_n.jpg (479 downloads)

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: pete walton] #883881 12/20/10 03:02 PM 12/20/10 03:02 PM
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pete walton member P Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 42 England	Picture of Sylvia back then ,,in the old six pack car that Jeff built before they got the Rossi car...And the Rossi car in another one of its many panit schemes it had whlst in the UK 6368306-s1%20001%20(3)_jpg_opt399x303o0,0s399x303.jpg (718 downloads)

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: pete walton] #883882 12/20/10 03:03 PM 12/20/10 03:03 PM
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pete walton member P Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 42 England	6368308-sw1%20001_jpg_opt424x337o0,0s424x337.jpg (559 downloads)

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: Cab_Burge] #883883 12/20/10 05:38 PM 12/20/10 05:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona C Chris'sBarracuda master
Chris'sBarracuda master C Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona	Quote: Quote: Quote: I think the key thing that helped his program was the 6 pak Edelbrock STR which was really a tunnel ram. I thought Rossi used the Weiand 6-bbl intake, not the STR... The Weiand fits the "tunnel ram" description better than the STR, too. I know that one of his test cars, Mike Piazza car did. You say it was a low deck.. Not sure which intake that would be.. Also, I had heard years ago, that the car was finally ruled as "Not Legal" in Super Stock after it was weighed front to rear.. That thing was sure a wheelstander.. Chris..

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #883884 12/20/10 06:42 PM 12/20/10 06:42 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,228 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,228 Bend,OR USA	One of the tricks used in both Stock and SS on the 440 6 paks was to cut the deck way down to low deck specs and build the motor from thier, or mold a high deck pad onto a 400 block I was offered a Eddy NHRA legal(it was on the car when it set a NHRA record in C/SA, not Pauls car ) 6 pak intake that would have requiered intake spacer to make it fit on a stock deck 440 The owner was selling that intake as he had quit racing NHRA stock and he knew I like 6 paks. Making the Weinand 440 6 pak SS manifold fit on a SS car with a cut down 440 deck would be no big deal, even back then with the rulses they had on intakes then I was thinking the Ron Butler had a lot to do with building that car, maybe not Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: JAKE68] #883885 12/20/10 07:31 PM 12/20/10 07:31 PM
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hemiviper588 pro stock H Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,252 MI	I can't recall what else was done...but I do remember Mike saying that he didn't paid!

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #883886 12/20/10 08:07 PM 12/20/10 08:07 PM
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slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,185 Park Forest, IL	Quote: Also, I had heard years ago, that the car was finally ruled as "Not Legal" in Super Stock after it was weighed front to rear.. That thing was sure a wheelstander.. I had heard a rumor from some other class racers that the car was pretty well twisted up when Rossi sold it. Too many big wheelstands in it's life. Jim Van Cleve Jr's Fairlane used to stand up pretty well too. Saw him and Rossi side by side once. It was awesome! "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: pete walton] #883887 12/20/10 08:29 PM 12/20/10 08:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,756 London, England Gavin top fuel
Gavin top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,756 London, England	Quote: Pete, I think this one was Hausers previous 71 car, not the Rossi car.. Anyway, the Rossi car was awesome, one of the cars that got me into Mopars and Challengers in particular! Here's another pic in another paint scheme! 6368784-hauserpink.jpg (434 downloads)

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: Gavin] #883888 12/20/10 08:32 PM 12/20/10 08:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,756 London, England Gavin top fuel
Gavin top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,756 London, England	And another paint scheme! 6368789-hauserspod.jpg (403 downloads)

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: BradH] #883889 12/20/10 09:24 PM 12/20/10 09:24 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,093 Long Beach, CA Mike Swann super stock
Mike Swann super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,093 Long Beach, CA	Quote: Quote: I think the key thing that helped his program was the 6 pak Edelbrock STR which was really a tunnel ram. I thought Rossi used the Weiand 6-bbl intake, not the STR... The Weiand fits the "tunnel ram" description better than the STR, too. Your right, I had my manufacturer's mixed up, me bad. 8.30's @3400 lbs

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: Mike Swann] #883890 12/20/10 09:29 PM 12/20/10 09:29 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,618 long island NY A Ari440 master
Ari440 master A Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,618 long island NY	whos headers was he using ? 1.39 9.85 - 137 mph

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: Ari440] #883891 12/20/10 10:51 PM 12/20/10 10:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,093 Long Beach, CA Mike Swann super stock
Mike Swann super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,093 Long Beach, CA	Just about everyone was running Hookers at that time. 8.30's @3400 lbs

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: Mike Swann] #883892 01/03/11 03:09 AM 01/03/11 03:09 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,730 Red Deer, Alberta B bill_greenwood top fuel
bill_greenwood top fuel B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,730 Red Deer, Alberta	A local S/S Hemi racer had a good look at that car back when he and his brother ran a SS/DA Cuda. It definitely lived on the razor's edge of the rule book. Something that sticks with me about that car was the rear suspension. Apparently the front spring eye was lowered by a couple of inches, which was the key to the big wheelstands. I was also told that on a really hard launch, the passenger window glass would pop out of the track at the top and then pop back in as the car rotated back to ground.

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: bill_greenwood] #883893 01/03/11 03:13 PM 01/03/11 03:13 PM
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Monte_Smith master M Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,890 North Alabama	My dad ran a SS/GA, six pack, Challenger in the 70s and we crossed paths with Mr Rossi a few times. I think they ran each other in class elims 4 times and split the total. I don't remember the exact ETs, as I was young and that was a long time ago. All I remember, was whoever left first, seemed to win, the cars were that close. My dad did all his own engine work and the rules then were very restrictive. Untouched heads, stock rods and other things. I know our car REALLY responded to the Weiand intake when he made the switch. I still have the intake setup. It is full of balsa-wood damns and other mods. We ran manual carbs. I know my dad had some obscure, availability letter, that he had at all the races, when the manual carbs were questioned. That motor had more sets of heads, cams and converters bolted to it, than you can imagine. Lots of power in valve angles and other things. Car setup was critical as well. Our car would hook anywhere. Monte

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: bill_greenwood] #883894 01/03/11 10:25 PM 01/03/11 10:25 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 417 reynoldsburg,ohio poppaj mopar
poppaj mopar Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 417 reynoldsburg,ohio	Quote: A local S/S Hemi racer had a good look at that car back when he and his brother ran a SS/DA Cuda. It definitely lived on the razor's edge of the rule book. Something that sticks with me about that car was the rear suspension. Apparently the front spring eye was lowered by a couple of inches, which was the key to the big wheelstands. I was also told that on a really hard launch, the passenger window glass would pop out of the track at the top and then pop back in as the car rotated back to ground. The front spring eye was raised about 1-1/2". That car was a rulebook twister for sure. The Wiend 6pk intake was the hot intake then, it was a .2-.3 gain with the mods and even more on some cars. Most guys ran 5.57-5.86 gears as well. Valvetrain breakage was a common problem when running a wedge back then, valves were checked after every pass.That is when class racing was fun, not a bracket race. poppaj 6395844-coronet999.jpg (233 downloads) AA/NSS 65'Coronet "Whompin Wedge" Pop & Son Performance 557" B-1 power John Holt Chassis

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: poppaj] #883895 01/03/11 10:47 PM 01/03/11 10:47 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,618 long island NY A Ari440 master
Ari440 master A Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,618 long island NY	any body have pics of the mods made in the manifold dos any one have pics of the motor 1.39 9.85 - 137 mph

Re: History question - How fast was Paul Rossi's SS Chally? [Re: Mike Swann] #883896 01/03/11 10:50 PM 01/03/11 10:50 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,314 Charlotte, NC L LSP pro stock
LSP pro stock L Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,314 Charlotte, NC	Quote: I seen him in Pomona a few years in a row and talked to him in the pits. If memory serves me correctly, Paul was running high 10.40's at the time with an R286 and a 1/2 inch lobe. Sounded really good. I built a motor where I used to work for Art Pacheco back in the early 90's. Cam was a .460" lobe, 287* @ .050", 2 ring piston, real similar to what else was posted here. Manifold was the Weiand, but didn't have all the "Mopar" dams in it, ran 10 teens IIRC, been a while. Wasn't a high strung deal like today, 7100-7200 max rpm IIRC.

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