Re: Guys with no inner fenders on stock type a-bodies?
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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12/18/10 04:21 PM
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Heres one when my Valiant was in the body shop.
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Re: Guys with no inner fenders on stock type a-bodies?
[Re: earthmover]
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12/18/10 07:09 PM
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Here's what mine looks like. A little tough to see the shock mount, but it is tied in with the front runner of the cage.
Last edited by 70HemiGTX; 12/18/10 07:09 PM.
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Re: Guys with no inner fenders on stock type a-bodies?
[Re: earthmover]
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12/18/10 07:16 PM
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If it's a race car , ease of header install, plug change, maybe cooling, make sure you have the front cage tubes even if there welded to the firewall or your car will fold up. welding the remaining shock tower to the front tubes will add support also. If your looking for weight reduction , maybe 20 lbs., The down tubes will weigh more. It better be a race car or the value of your car will be reduced.
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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Re: Guys with no inner fenders on stock type a-bodies?
[Re: earthmover]
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12/18/10 07:22 PM
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whats the pros and cons of this i have thought of doing my duster this way with the new big block but thought i would ask before i do it...i know it helps cool down air flow in compartment and stuff like that maybe clearence for headers aswell thanks sorry dont mean to hi jack just would like to know..mike
If you put the round tube in place as the others show you can cut that sheet metal out and save weight along with easier access... the upper A-arm carries very little load... its there to hold the spindle vertical, thats all(well in the case of a stock set up its there to adjust the camber and caster)
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Re: Guys with no inner fenders on stock type a-bodies?
[Re: rebel]
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12/18/10 08:59 PM
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the pro's as i see it, you have room to build better flowing headers...
What's the spring for??
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Re: Guys with no inner fenders on stock type a-bodies?
[Re: PolyDart]
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12/18/10 09:02 PM
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What's the spring for??
it's not a spring but in fact a piece of plastic electrical conduit to hide the hori old chain i use to act as a limiter on the suspension.
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Re: Guys with no inner fenders on stock type a-bodies?
[Re: Sixpak]
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12/18/10 09:58 PM
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Just an fyi - those inner fenders do a lot to strengthen the uni-body. And they will weigh much less than the cage bars you would need to install to regain that strength...you also lose a good many of the places that bolts go into the fenders to hold them in place.
On the weight... I disagree with you... thats alot of metal your taking out... but I use moly tubing which is 1.36# per foot but if you use MS its 2.0#
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Re: Guys with no inner fenders on stock type a-bodies?
[Re: Gary Robbins]
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12/19/10 12:00 AM
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Here's my pig. This was done for cooling, the A-body engine compartment is a hot-house otherwise. Bent bars are weaker in tension and compression. Mine isn't tied to the cage since I don't have one. Fwiw, the horizontal force in the upper control arms is F=W*A/B where W is the sprung corner weight, A is the distance from the center of the tire to the center of the lower ball joint and B is the distance between the ball joints. Since A and B are similar the horizontal force is similar to the sprung corner weight. Check out the high-tech cooling system. It's worked fine for at least 15 years and uses no wp housing. The bar code on the valve cover is for a Cordoba HP 400, I just couldn't paint over it. Harland Sharps hiding under the stock covers. I know, I have some clean-up to do, the engine is coming out soon.
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