In bare metal

In DP90 that same night

talk to your paint store; most will tell you to stay away from soda because of adhession problems & the paint companies will not guarantee paint. every thing I have read & was told tells me to stay away so thats why I bought a media blaster & used walnuts awesome job no residue left in cracks to haunt you later like paint falling off. after your $10,000.00 paint job {to each their own do the homework}

I own a restoration/body shop. 90% of the cars we do we have media blasted. The guy I use uses soda and crushed glass. We have had ZERO problems from soda. You have to prep and wash the metal, after using soda or expect problems. I've never been involved with having a body dipped. As far as paint companys not standing behind there paint due to the use of soda, I've never heard that. I've had paint reps at the shop and I've asked them point blank about soda, they have no problem with it. Has any one ever truely had a paint problem? 99% of the time it's traced back to either poor prep work, or incorrect flash times.

my paint store told me that on the can or the fine print disclamer maybe not all brands I use ppg dupont??? also Ive read of problems of seepage out of seams or not de activating good enough causing problems down the road but I am not a pro just an average joe just google it on internet read for yourself like I said I was sold on soda & almost purchased a blaster I did but used walnut it worked okay for in the driveway use just my opinion

Anyone ever use this stuff Clean Blast.??

what is it looks expensive walnuts cheap leave under tree when done

Kleen blast, it a black sand like .060 grit material I use it in my blast cabinet. When I bought the cabinet it came with 500 lbs of the stuff. It says its non-silica material.

I work for PPG and have never heard of paint companies not standing behind the paint because someone used soda. Where did that come from?

Paint companies dont stand behind people who dont properly prepare the substrates for adhesion. Alot of bumpkins do not adequates prepare for the adhesion of coatings including primers. You can dip a car and have it completely stripped and yet if you do not have the car nuetralized correctly (and the same holds with soda) you will have issues early on. When your spraying the vehicle and the particles of sand, soda or whatever comes out of crevices and gets on the surface you will a have issues a plenty. Problem is (from our end) is that everyone wants to make the coatings mfg the "whipping boy". Everybody thinks paint is paint and their a painter. 95% of the time the issue is in the prep of the surfaces (substrate) of the cars. Everything from the environments such as humidity, correct preparation of the paint product in mixture, familiarity with your spray equipment and body prep come into play. The overwhelming majority of mistakes are made in these areas, but the overwhelming majority will complain its the "paints fault". A common issue is the lack of prep "after" the soda, black beauty, or chemical compounds have been applied to strip the car. Our PPG automotive division consists of dealer owned stores, and of course each runs their center as they see fit (within reason), but PPG does not trash you out and say "nope we wont warrantee our product because you soda blasted your car."

i have talked to the local PPG and Dupont reps and neither have a problem with soda. Being a blaster and doing soda as my main media i hear this every day about the evils of soda. i am to the point were i am switching to walnuts because i am tired of explaining and defending soda to customers who "read on the internet"

I talked to a customer on thursday who wants his 58 bug blasted, i sugested walnuts and he said no, he wanted soda, he told me he read on the internet that walnuts leave a oil residue behind and paint falls off.

dont believe everything you read on the internet

okay tear me up like I said just what ive heard & just my opinion this is a 50-50 either way I think just depends on what ya want to use. every one has a opinion does not make it right or wrong!! just an opinion

AB+E what do you base your opinion on? is it first hand experience or something you have read? just curious.

What are folks using to blast away the factory paint off of rallye wheels? (something safe where you don't affect the stampings).

I am not sure if it is powdercoated but its hard and chemicals have not worked. Will soda remove powdercoat?

I did six wheels last week in my blast cabinet with the Kleen blast abrasive .060 grit.

I'm pretty sure I blasted these with some 20/40 coal slage, which is courser than 30/60.


As you can see, it didn't hurt the numbers, But sure does get rid of rust which means pitted metal. These old 14' wheels are all blasted and painted with the right argent silver, in lacquer!

To bad there 14s...lol

I just realized that I had a rear taillight housing for 74 challenger sitting here blasted with 20/40 coal slage. I't in my full time heated garage and is not rusting yet. I don't touch it with bare hands.It'll get blasted again after it's welded back on the car.

It's sitting next to a deck lid that I did with plastic, real fast because I was running low on plastic and I knew I wasn't gonna use it on my last car.
It had 2 red paint jobs on top of that body work. Someone had already sanded off the original color and laid down some red oxide with holes sanded in it!!

I bet the first red paint didn't turn out so well, that's why there were 2. It never looked that good when I got it either. Except the biggee, no rust, no where. It was a dream car to restore.
The deck lid needs a DA taken to it to make it bare. The plastic took pimer and 2 paint jobs off of it though real fast.

Whoever said plastic is slow, is wrong. It cut's just as well or better than coal slage. Just shoot it at a lower PSI.

i wasnt hacking you opinion, I just wanted to know if it was first hand experience or something you had read. If you go looking your going to find a simular arguement with walnuts leaving oil behind.

I blast with both soda and walnuts now so it really doesnt matter to me. whatever the customer wants

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