Re: Lets talk about Media Blasting Types (Soda vs Others)
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12/18/10 12:45 AM
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Anyone ever use this stuff Clean Blast.??
1966 Charger 383 4 speed (Black with Red interior) 1973 Cuda 340 4 speed (Lemontwist) 1972 Corvette
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Re: Lets talk about Media Blasting Types (Soda vs Others)
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12/18/10 02:26 AM
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Kleen blast, it a black sand like .060 grit material I use it in my blast cabinet. When I bought the cabinet it came with 500 lbs of the stuff. It says its non-silica material.
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Re: Lets talk about Media Blasting Types (Soda vs Others)
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12/18/10 09:07 AM
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I work for PPG and have never heard of paint companies not standing behind the paint because someone used soda. Where did that come from?
Paint companies dont stand behind people who dont properly prepare the substrates for adhesion. Alot of bumpkins do not adequates prepare for the adhesion of coatings including primers. You can dip a car and have it completely stripped and yet if you do not have the car nuetralized correctly (and the same holds with soda) you will have issues early on. When your spraying the vehicle and the particles of sand, soda or whatever comes out of crevices and gets on the surface you will a have issues a plenty. Problem is (from our end) is that everyone wants to make the coatings mfg the "whipping boy". Everybody thinks paint is paint and their a painter. 95% of the time the issue is in the prep of the surfaces (substrate) of the cars. Everything from the environments such as humidity, correct preparation of the paint product in mixture, familiarity with your spray equipment and body prep come into play. The overwhelming majority of mistakes are made in these areas, but the overwhelming majority will complain its the "paints fault". A common issue is the lack of prep "after" the soda, black beauty, or chemical compounds have been applied to strip the car. Our PPG automotive division consists of dealer owned stores, and of course each runs their center as they see fit (within reason), but PPG does not trash you out and say "nope we wont warrantee our product because you soda blasted your car."
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Re: Lets talk about Media Blasting Types (Soda vs Others)
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12/18/10 10:08 PM
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I did six wheels last week in my blast cabinet with the Kleen blast abrasive .060 grit.
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Re: Lets talk about Media Blasting Types (Soda vs Others)
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12/18/10 11:34 PM
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I did six wheels last week in my blast cabinet with the Kleen blast abrasive .060 grit.
Never heard of that brand. I'm sure that is coal slage. Nothing wrong with that, same stuff I use. All the the coal slage I have used has been "non silca"
That's why my supplier quit selling silica sand and started selling coal slage. AKA Black Beauty, Black Lightining, Black this and Black that...lol
I'm thinking your .060 grit is about the same as 30/60 here that I use, which is perfect for blasting wheels. I have done about 20 or so at a time, never hurt the stampings, not even close. I still have some in the the garage all painted. Maybe some pictures... if I go out and take em.
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Re: Lets talk about Media Blasting Types (Soda vs Others)
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12/19/10 12:36 AM
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I just realized that I had a rear taillight housing for 74 challenger sitting here blasted with 20/40 coal slage. I't in my full time heated garage and is not rusting yet. I don't touch it with bare hands.It'll get blasted again after it's welded back on the car. It's sitting next to a deck lid that I did with plastic, real fast because I was running low on plastic and I knew I wasn't gonna use it on my last car. It had 2 red paint jobs on top of that body work. Someone had already sanded off the original color and laid down some red oxide with holes sanded in it!! I bet the first red paint didn't turn out so well, that's why there were 2. It never looked that good when I got it either. Except the biggee, no rust, no where. It was a dream car to restore. The deck lid needs a DA taken to it to make it bare. The plastic took pimer and 2 paint jobs off of it though real fast. Whoever said plastic is slow, is wrong. It cut's just as well or better than coal slage. Just shoot it at a lower PSI.
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Re: Lets talk about Media Blasting Types (Soda vs Others)
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12/21/10 07:01 PM
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AB+E what do you base your opinion on? is it first hand experience or something you have read? just curious.
well I stripped my 69 bee with walnuts myself & like I said I was sold on soda but changed my mind after reading bad articles about it. have I used soda NO THANK YOU I restore my own cars except for paint&body work & I do agree its in the prep you have to get it off & out of all seams. so my main thing is for pros maybe okay because if my paint bubbles at seems I can let you redo it for novice users I would beware itS all in the prep baby. just my opinion like yours take it or leave it DONT CARE
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