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Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: Boosted] #825908
05/06/11 03:56 PM
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Instead of Stealths you could always get the MP Stage 6 heads.... I love mine..



I have stage VI heads they sit way high... not anything like stock. They have raised ports.

Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: Mr.Yuck] #825909
05/07/11 12:35 AM
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Edelbrocks and stealths are all standard port and valve geometry. I run the steaths for 2 years and couple thousand miles with no issues. They flow well and are cheap. I am no tuner and I got my 4000+lb brick to go 11.67 first time out on 8 psi boost.


11.67@118 1.88 60' with only 7-8 lbs of boost. Turbocharged, megasquirted, 407 BB, 440 source heads, roller cam, 9:1 comp. http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm14/beansgracie
Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: CW25] #825910
05/07/11 03:12 AM
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My plan is to have Richard at WCCH port some edelbrocks for the engine once I actually build the engine to make/handle the power.

Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: CW25] #825911
05/07/11 01:20 PM
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The Eddy heads push the manifolds out a little. I don't remember how big of a difference it is but if your system is ultra-tight with no wiggle room there might be an issue.


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- Stu Harmon
Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: feets] #825912
05/07/11 06:16 PM
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I'll cross that bridge when I get there. if I'm stuck with the stealth option then maybe I'll stick with them until I build another set of headers....

Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: Wilde Racing] #825913
05/23/11 10:22 PM
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NICE WORK!!! Keep it up. I think that NOVA is gonna have it's butt handed to it.

Look forward to seeing more progress.


1.50 60Ft. , 10.75@ 127MPH Hauling 3900 LBS.
Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: Wilde Racing] #825914
05/25/11 03:23 PM
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Sherwood park, Alberta.
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Where will the wastegate mount? It needs to see all 4 cylinders.




The wastegates will be between the turbo and engine. Im keeping the drive presssure as segregated as possible. My plan is to use 1 1/2 pipe centered between the two sides of the primerys. The wastegate supply pipe will have a divider the runs up to the wastegate valve face..... Clear as mud?

I did the same thing with my silverado, it seamed to work ok....







I am not sure what you mean by this ? ^^^^^^




You are not thinking of actually putting your blow off valves on or in your intake manifold are you ?



6.50 @ 226 MPH 4.25 @ 186 MPH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX86DHGKBo0
Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: go green] #825915
05/26/11 12:14 PM
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Sorry to stray off topic a bit but I have to say I LOVE THAT CUDA go green... Just damm...


2011 RAM3500

1967 Fastback Barracuda with some go fast goodies.
Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: go green] #825916
05/26/11 03:01 PM
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Where will the wastegate mount? It needs to see all 4 cylinders.




The wastegates will be between the turbo and engine. Im keeping the drive presssure as segregated as possible. My plan is to use 1 1/2 pipe centered between the two sides of the primerys. The wastegate supply pipe will have a divider the runs up to the wastegate valve face..... Clear as mud?

I did the same thing with my silverado, it seamed to work ok....




I am not sure what you mean by this ? ^^^^^^

You are not thinking of actually putting your blow off valves on or in your intake manifold are you ?




Where did you get blow off valves? I see wastegates in the above statement.


We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind.
- Stu Harmon
Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: feets] #825917
05/27/11 02:14 AM
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Sherwood park, Alberta.
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Part 1 Wastgate plumbing ( what the frack )


Part 2

He had a picture the blow-off valves parked on top of the intake manifold.



6.50 @ 226 MPH 4.25 @ 186 MPH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX86DHGKBo0
Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: go green] #825918
05/28/11 01:33 AM
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the waste gate and blow off were just sitting on the intake for the picture. The bov will be mounted before the throttle body (other-wise, what is the point right?)

I'm going to start working on the waste gates next. I'm impatiently waiting for my oxygen tank to be refilled before I can do anymore with the headers. The plan is to have two 3/4 pipes merge into two 1 1/4 pipes which feeds the 38mm gate. It is going to be a bit more complex to keep the individual pulse charges separate while still allowing all cylinders to vent through the gate. I like to think of it as a mini waste gate header.....


BTW, thanks for making me feel good. lol ...... My standing MILE goals are the same as your QUARTER MILE speeds.....

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Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: Wilde Racing] #825919
05/28/11 03:50 PM
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Unless you're building an all out race car you will never see a difference with managing the exhaust pulses. Odds are the manifolds will be under greater pressure than the intake.

Just make sure that all exhaust ports can feed the WG inlets and you'll be fine.


We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind.
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Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: feets] #825920
05/29/11 12:41 PM
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I know, everyone told me the same thing when I built my log manifold with the last turbo kit. I was just hard headed enough to keep everything separate then too. I'm glad I did, I have loges showing so pretty impressive exhaust pressure vs map pressure ratios....
I'll see if I cant dig up my screen shots.

Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: Wilde Racing] #825921
06/15/11 01:09 AM
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I've been busy lately, I acquired a new toy/tool. A logan Lathe but here is a small update.....

Acc. bracket is in the process of be made..... It's like splitting hairs....








I also got a few wiring/computer components. A HUGE thanks goes out to Jean at JB Performance, these boards are his work...

Basically what you see is three boards, the smallest of which is for two EGT sensor inputes, the other two have 8 more EGT inputs, 3-axis accelerometer, SC card socket, real time clock, optional GPS module, 8 ADC conditioners, 6 high current drivers, 6 low current input/output circuits... :huh: These are just the data acquisition portion of the computer system!



EGT board (small) and the main I/O board using CAN communication...



Main EGT board with all the extra goodies...



That's it for now, I have plans to get a lot accomplished this week end so be on the look out....

Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: Wilde Racing] #825922
06/23/11 01:07 PM
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Flattening the band saw cut....






Bracket roughed out, alt mounted, and wastegates tacked.




I was unsure how to make sure the waste gates were mounted even and near the same angle, I came up with the string alignment idea.








I've has a few people ask how I'm going to plum my waste gates, I basically am building a miniature header for the gate, keeping each pipe as isolated as possible given the room I have and keep the bank divided to take full advantage of the split scroll turbo housing. I've head many think this is a waste of time and energy but I'm whiling to spend the time.... 

Here is the divider, it is thicker the the pipe wall but not by much....




The first pipe of the waste gate header...




Both "main" pipes in, the divider will get centered later.




Here are the "sub" pipes used to allow all cylinders to bleed pressure. The two mains are 1 1/4 the small pipes are 3/4 I think. I can't remember.....





Back on the car, I was going to leave the support on but after some thought I think I'm going to cut it out.




I've started to do the same for the left side waste gate, I'll post those pictures when it I'd complete. 

Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: Wilde Racing] #825923
06/23/11 09:20 PM
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Nice work keep the pictures coming and good luck on the project.

Do you have a link to JB Performance I did a google search but I didnt seem to find them online.

What kind of a data system are you running?

Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: PHJ426] #825924
06/25/11 01:09 AM
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Thanks.
I'm going to be using MegaSquirt.
Jean can be contacted HERE
Be sure to tell him I sent ya!

Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: Wilde Racing] #825925
06/28/11 09:18 PM
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Cool thanks for the link!

Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: Wilde Racing] #825926
07/16/11 03:58 PM
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I'll cross that bridge when I get there. if I'm stuck with the stealth option then maybe I'll stick with them until I build another set of headers....


why not the indy ez heads or the sr heads? nice work by the way.

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Re: Project "69 Twin TurboCharger" [Re: 9secondsatellite] #825927
07/17/11 05:38 PM
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why not the indy ez heads or the sr heads? nice work by the way.




I was unsure if the exhaust port flange angle were the same as the stock cast heads.

A little more done. The left side gate is done, so the only thing left for the manifolds is to touch up a few ugly welds, weld in eight EGT probe bosses, weld in two drive pressure fitting bosses, a bit more welding in the merge and a little port clean up. I'm beyond burnt out on the headers, so I'll come back to most of this stuff later........

Here is the progress of the left side...
Connect to holes...

















O.K now to move on to the A/C compressor bracket, first, I can not draw well but I wanted something unique. I had planed on a March-ish looking bracket but my wife gave me this idea so I appeased her and drew it up. I ended up liked it enough to try and make it. Turned out O.K imo, but I still have a bit of clean up to it. It also serves as a way to identify what family I belong to if the unthinkable happens, theft deterrent, and more proof I do things the hard/long/waste of time way....... All drawings and machine work was done free hand so don't judge too hard lol...























I plan in building another pivot support for the rear of the A/C pump, the I'll use an adjustable rod to tighten the belt. Never mind the bolt holding the alternator up, it was just used to position the alternator for more brain storming........

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