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Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality #825252
10/08/10 09:08 PM
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So I get my new push rods and my nice hold down kit to use with the CRANE gold rockers I have had sitting on my shelf for some time, and as I start setting the lash on my 360 hydraulic cammed motor, I hear a crack. Back the rocker stud all the way out, and the jam nut is locked on the adjuster big time.

I get it loose, and all the threads peel off like nothing. No spares, but I tried to set the rest, and two more cracked before I even finished....Just lovely. I guess the green truck is done for the season, tomorrow was TNT....What junk!


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: Dragula] #825253
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How long have they been sitting?


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Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: BloFish] #825254
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I got them last year.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: Dragula] #825255
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Is it the rocker body or the nut that is cracking?

Which threads? the adjuster or the rocker body?


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Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: Dragula] #825256
10/08/10 10:23 PM
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How tight are you tightening them? Reason I ask is I was recently running the valves on my "late" buddy's Cuda and I found a couple he had stripped, apparently right at the point he stopped twisting on it. Dont know if he even knew, but ALL of them he had rediculously tight. Those nuts are not very wide so its easy to over tighten them doing just what you've had happen.

Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: Dragula] #825257
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Consider yourself fortunate..most of those bad Crane screws broke AFTER the engine ran...and boogered up many a engine.


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Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #825258
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Consider yourself fortunate..most of those bad Crane screws broke AFTER the engine ran...and boogered up many a engine.




Yep...ben there and done that to. Had to replace pushrods, 2 roller lifters,valve springs and tear the motor apart because of brokern adjustor screws. Ordered some different ones and no more problems.
Good luck


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Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: SCATPACK 1] #825259
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But they are sooo pretty, they have to be good..

Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: mistress] #825260
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so what adjusters would you replace em with.

Last edited by barracuda man; 10/08/10 11:12 PM.
Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: barracuda man] #825261
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Smith Bros....


5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: Eric] #825262
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Smith Bros....





My gold cranes were junk!!!!
I ordered up a set from smith bros.
They are very nice!!! and cost $75.00
Infact they were the cheapest thing on the motor,
but smith bros makes a very nice piece!!

Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: barracuda man] #825263
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I run hughes rockers in my BB. Over .700 lift and over .550 spring rate. never had any problems ever. I run the valves every week and they don't need it. (never any loose)they are a little more than the gold but you get what you pay for. just my 2 cents worth.

Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: mistress] #825264
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I run hughes rockers in my BB. Over .700 lift and over .550 spring rate. never had any problems ever. I run the valves every week and they don't need it. (never any loose)they are a little more than the gold but you get what you pay for. just my 2 cents worth.




I may pick up some of those for the shafts + improved oiling over the cranes...

mine are ok but there was a few runs of those bad adjusters which caused lots of issues...

Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: barracuda man] #825265
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Manton is another excellant source for
adjuster screws

Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: Dragula] #825266
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Probably Chinese junk... I have a similar problem on a set of rockers. Every time I adjust the valves the threads pull a little more. I knew something was up right away when I couldn't get a metric or SAE wrench to fit.

AHHH...NUTS.

Re: Adjusters Cracking as I set the Lash.....Nice Quality [Re: Mike Swann] #825267
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Is it the rocker body or the nut that is cracking?

Which threads? the adjuster or the rocker body?




The adjusters. The threads just crack right off...Heck, I didn't even have them tight yet, just snug.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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Guess I got the "good ole days" version. My Crane Golds have been in use for around 13 years now needing nothing but an occasional adjustment.

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Quote:

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Is it the rocker body or the nut that is cracking?

Which threads? the adjuster or the rocker body?




The adjusters. The threads just crack right off...Heck, I didn't even have them tight yet, just snug.



I know there were alot of guys complaining about them a few years back. I, like others here, took the Crane adjusters and pitched them when they were still new in favor of the Smith Bros type. I have NEVER liked those narrow Crane nuts, mostly cuz there so easy to slip off of with your wrench.

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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Is it the rocker body or the nut that is cracking?

Which threads? the adjuster or the rocker body?




The adjusters. The threads just crack right off...Heck, I didn't even have them tight yet, just snug.



I know there were alot of guys complaining about them a few years back. I, like others here, took the Crane adjusters and pitched them when they were still new in favor of the Smith Bros type. I have NEVER liked those narrow Crane nuts, mostly cuz there so easy to slip off of with your wrench.




Yeah, I am missing some skin off my knuckles too. I put the stock ones back on and put it in the trailor for the winter. We will see what I get done on it this year.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk






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