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What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? #727902
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.... it has been ages since I have done this ...and the last time I did-it ...it was a PITA with the one I had(it was red in-color). That was lost-in-the-move ..... so I beeez needin' one ...

I have 3 motors to do within the next 45 days or so ..... I don't think that an electric one is in-the-budget .... but if it is a time-saver and more accurate - maybe I can see that through...

Give me your

Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #727903
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i use the cheapest Summit one you can buy.

In fact--i will sell mine. Used on one set of rings.

Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #727904
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I use this due to I dont build engines for a living

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-906795/?rtype=10

Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #727905
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Although I do have the Proform electric filler, I really don't recomend it. Now I wish I would have bought the hi-dollar one from Goodson.

The one that Mr P body shows from summit is the best bang for the buck. I have one and have used it on countless motors including for my racing hemis which use tool steel rings.

Chuck it in the vice and only file on one side of the ring and debur when your done.

A reg hand file will work too, chucked in the vise.

Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: Challenger 1] #727906
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I just us a small fine file in a small vice doing one side using the top of the vice jaws as a guide and take your time.

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Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: Dodgem] #727907
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THX guys ...

So C1 ... you feel that the electric one is tooo aggressive ?

And then on the other end of the scale is the hand-file in a vise ?? ...

A WIDE-RANGE of opinions here .....

COOL ...

Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #727908
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We sell a tool for that: hand-operated, lifetime guarantee on its diamond grinding disk. www.area51groupllc.com, also on Ebay as seller topside340. We sell 'em to Summit & Jeg's.
We also have valve spring testers, height mics, leakdown testers, oil filter cutters, rod-bolt stretch indicators, and rearend setup tools.

Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: topside] #727909
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imho this is the best tool for the money ring filer

Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #727910
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Simple, and the results are pretty good


Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: topside] #727911
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We sell a tool for that: hand-operated, lifetime guarantee on its diamond grinding disk. www.area51groupllc.com, also on Ebay as seller topside340. We sell 'em to Summit & Jeg's.
We also have valve spring testers, height mics, leakdown testers, oil filter cutters, rod-bolt stretch indicators, and rearend setup tools.





Are the valve spring height mics china made?????

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Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: BSB67] #727912
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Simple, and the results are pretty good




that will work well! of course it isn't expensive enough. you need to price at 99.95, then we will like it.

Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: BSB67] #727913
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Simple, and the results are pretty good






That's about all I am willing to spend on filing rings, and really it's all you have to spend. Simple thing you can do instead of paying big for someone else to do it.

Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #727914
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THX guys ...

So C1 ... you feel that the electric one is tooo aggressive ?






No it's just too light duty and chessey. Motor will bog down if you get in hurry and it's easy to file em outta square. At least with tool steel rings. I haven't used it much with moly rings that I can think of.

Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: Challenger 1] #727915
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Ken -
No, our mics are not Chinese. We do them here.

Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #727916
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I have used the Speed Pro hand operated ring filer(like the Summit one) for years, and then I bought the Proform electric filer I have messed up several moly rings by not taking my time to make sure they where cut square Once I got the hang of it it is way better Don't forget the top moly ring is way harder than the second cast iron ring found in most H.P. file to fit ring sets, the second ring needs a lot less time against the grinding wheel The electric ring filer makes the time seem as twicre to three times faster than using the hand crank Speed Pro filer and nine times faster than usig a file


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Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: jamesc] #727917
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imho this is the best tool for the money ring filer




That is the one that we use...


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Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: tjmarcus1] #727918
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Simple, and the results are pretty good




that will work well! of course it isn't expensive enough. you need to price at 99.95, then we will like it.




Mine is similar. Really if your only going to be doing this a few times, or like me maybe 2-3 time a year tops. Of coarse I am tight, and just couldnt justify spending the money on one.
If I did it would be the cheapo hand crank unit


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Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #727919
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I have this cheap pro-form one:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRO-66785/

It works fine and cuts fairly quick. It's what I have, and I have not compared it to the other types which may be better?

Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: topside] #727920
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Ken -
No, our mics are not Chinese. We do them here.




Thanks!!! will be doing business with you soon


Remember in here some don't think you should have a Opinion.. sad fact..
Re: What do YOU USE ...to file-fit your rings ..? [Re: kens avenger] #727921
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I prefer to just take a chisel and just pinch off the ring until it will fit in the bore. Who gives a crap about gap. Then grind nothes in the top ring for gas ports.

Just kidding.........

I have a hand crank one. Problem was the hard rings I was forced to run in my ole nitrous motor eat the wheel up. Plus the ring was 4.255" and I was cutting for a .040" gap in a 4.245" bore. Found a cut off wheel to get it close then file to perfection.

I have noticed people really concerned about how square the cut is and even throughing rings they screwed up away. But, will stick a ring they didn't debur in a new piston and trash the ring groove.

Hint... It is more important how well the top ring seals against the bottom of the groove and second seals against the top of it's groove than how perfect you gap the ring. Have seen some hard core guys order the piston with grooves .0005 narrower and then sand the ring's surface down for the desired fit. This idea was around long before the diamond finish deal from Total Seal.

Leon


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