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1970 'Cuda Los Angeles built questions. #704222
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I'm curious about a 1970 'Cuda that was built in Los Angeles.
The car is a 340 4 speed with original color of FJ6.
I'm not real familiar with the LA built cars but I believe they did not come with the exhaust tips out the valance?
What other things are unique about the LA cars?

Thanks.

Re: 1970 'Cuda Los Angeles built questions. [Re: KillerBee] #704223
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Your fender tag would indicate that the car had N42 - chrome exhaust tips. 340 cars were not affected by CA noise compliance issues.

possible differences LA vs. Detroit:
finish - "dip" color
components such as seat belts & wheels
process - door VIN decal location

Re: 1970 'Cuda Los Angeles built questions. [Re: KillerBee] #704224
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my 1970 challenger 340 LA built and sold new in San Fran had tips....... at least I had an original tip valance ( tips were gone) it was an N95 car

Re: 1970 'Cuda Los Angeles built questions. [Re: 6bblgt] #704225
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340 cars were not affected by CA noise compliance issues.






See N97 at this link;

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/SalesmansPocketGuides/1970/Pg%20032.jpg

Re: 1970 'Cuda Los Angeles built questions. [Re: gtx6970] #704226
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my 1970 challenger 340 LA built and sold new in San Fran had tips....... at least I had an original tip valance ( tips were gone) it was an N95 car




Did your Challenger have complete black "primer" dip versus the grey used at the other plants.

I've been looking at Troy's 68 Dart that was built in L.A. and it is very black underneath. Non undercoating option car. And the black seems tougher than primer.

Anyone have pictures like this of a LA built E or B body?

Before glass bead blasting



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Yes, the floorpans were black

but they were B5 blue when I sold it. I didn't feel the need to argue everytime I took it out , the floors were wrong color had I painted them black

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My LA built cuda had black floor pans inside. Underneath was black with very little body color overspray. Underneath the body color was a very dark grey primer over the black dip.

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My '70 Cuda has the grey primer..........


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My '70 Cuda has the grey primer..........




Where was your 'Cuda built?

L.A. or Hamtramck?

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I'm not real familiar with the LA built cars but I believe they did not come with the exhaust tips out the valance?
What other things are unique about the LA cars?

Thanks.



Remember, just because it was built in L.A. doesn't mean it was to be sold in CA. If it was destined for other states, the exhaust and emissions issues didn't apply.

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so all la built cars had black primer on the bottom?? was that the norm for this plant??

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They la built 70 challenger rt I built has body color painted floors inside and it had the dark gray primer on the underside. Had a good bit of color on the underside also however was a factory undercoated car.


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Very good information.

Were there a lot of 1970 'Cuda's built in the LA plant?
How rare would an original J6 Sassy Grass green 70 'Cuda be?

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so all la built cars had black primer on the bottom?? was that the norm for this plant??




ALL is TOO inclusive, data from similar SPD vehicles would be beneficial.

define "black" vs. "dark gray" ??

I think you would need to get responses from similar YEAR &
EARLY (August-November) or
MID (December-March) or
LATE (April-July) production
to form a conclusion to accurately answer the question.

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Very good information.

Were there a lot of 1970 'Cuda's built in the LA plant?
How rare would an original J6 Sassy Grass green 70 'Cuda be?




The didn't built as many cars at that plant.

The plant at which a car was built has never been a factor on "rarity".

I believe there is a list that covers the percentages of 'Cuda Hardtops and Conv's per given color.

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Very good information.

Were there a lot of 1970 'Cuda's built in the LA plant?
How rare would an original J6 Sassy Grass green 70 'Cuda be?




Does it have V4J stripes??

FJ6 - 'Cudas built for USA (Hamtramck & Los Angeles) ~ 184

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If anyone is not familiar with the multi-step dip process view the page at this link ;

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/imag...neering0010.jpg

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There are an endless amount of variables that could affect the dip color.

How new was the product?

How many cars had been through it before yours?

What were the humidity & temperature that day?

How low did the tank get before more fluid was added?

How often was the tank cleaned?

Different suppliers?

Etc., etc.......

The only thing I have noticed from checking the back sides of fender tags I have here is that LA tags have very little if any dip on them, most show no sign of it.

Hamtramck cars have the whole tag covered in most cases.

This tells me that for whatever reason, the Hamtramck tank may have been a little deeper.

So, if you are restoring your car, use it as a reference & put it back as close as you can.

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There are an endless amount of variables that could affect the dip color.

How new was the product?

How many cars had been through it before yours?

What were the humidity & temperature that day?

How low did the tank get before more fluid was added?

How often was the tank cleaned?

Different suppliers?

Etc., etc.......




In this picture of a LA built 68 Dart you can see the black dip line






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Here's the remains of black paint/dip that is protected well under the gas tank after sanding and scraping. Troy said that stuff is certainly tougher than the grey primer that was under his 30K mile So Cal Challenger T/A.

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