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Single vs Dual Valve Spring Question #649088
03/23/10 04:26 PM
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Hey guys, I'm hoping some of you engine pro's can help me out with this one. I'm building out a stock 383 from my '69 Road Runner and I am about to have the heads rebuilt. Is it worth spending the extra cash for dual springs vs the single? My current springs are too weak for my new cam so they need replaced either way. The cam going into it is a mild street performance cam, but still allows you to stay with stock set up. Comp Cams recommends two options for springs, one single and the other dual. I've heard dual springs last longer and give better performance at higher RPM's, but my car is going to be a street/show car anyway so I'm not sure if its worth it. It would save me about $100-$250 if I went single because they are less expensinve and the heads would require no additional machining. I'd love to know what you guys think. Thanks!

Re: Single vs Dual Valve Spring Question [Re: A4SixtyNineRR] #649089
03/23/10 04:31 PM
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If you can get away with the single then do it, so long as the spring of choice delivers the spring rates recommended by your cam manufacturer.

Re: Single vs Dual Valve Spring Question [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #649090
03/23/10 04:37 PM
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use a drop on single spring and save the $ for something else..


Re: Single vs Dual Valve Spring Question [Re: A4SixtyNineRR] #649091
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Re: Single vs Dual Valve Spring Question [Re: scratchnfotraction] #649092
03/23/10 05:14 PM
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I was thinking the same thing too. These cars were built with single springs and people ran the hell out of them. Its possible that the heads wouldn't need additional machining, but he wasn't sure until he got into it. If that were the case, the dual springs are only about $70 more... but that is still money that could be spent elsewhere on the car if dual springs won't gain me anything.

Re: Single vs Dual Valve Spring Question [Re: A4SixtyNineRR] #649093
03/23/10 05:23 PM
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I was thinking the same thing too. These cars were built with single springs and people ran the hell out of them. Its possible that the heads wouldn't need additional machining, but he wasn't sure until he got into it. If that were the case, the dual springs are only about $70 more... but that is still money that could be spent elsewhere on the car if dual springs won't gain me anything.


and that isn't counting the machine work that will have to be done to the heads to make a dual spring work. If you don't need them don't use them. Use a single spring rated for the cam if possible.

Re: Single vs Dual Valve Spring Question [Re: MoparforLife] #649094
03/23/10 05:27 PM
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I was thinking the same thing too. These cars were built with single springs and people ran the hell out of them. Its possible that the heads wouldn't need additional machining, but he wasn't sure until he got into it. If that were the case, the dual springs are only about $70 more... but that is still money that could be spent elsewhere on the car if dual springs won't gain me anything.


and that isn't counting the machine work that will have to be done to the heads to make a dual spring work. If you don't need them don't use them. Use a single spring rated for the cam if possible.




Ok, good to hear I was thinking the right thing. Comp Cams recommends both options with similar spring rates so I wasn't sure if there was a big advantage to using dual on a street motor. Thanks for the opinions so far.

Re: Single vs Dual Valve Spring Question [Re: A4SixtyNineRR] #649095
03/23/10 05:28 PM
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A double spring is comparatively cheap insurance in case one of the springs breaks.

Re: Single vs Dual Valve Spring Question [Re: A4SixtyNineRR] #649096
03/23/10 07:00 PM
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You need nothing more than a single spring for what you are doing.Probably a Comp 911.


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Re: Single vs Dual Valve Spring Question [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #649097
03/23/10 09:18 PM
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Many modern cams need dual springs even with lower lofts because of the fast rate of lift. If you are having the ehads doen anyway, I'd have the spring seats and guides trimmed for the positive seals now. Even if you dont need them right now, you may, and it's cheap to do now and you'll have better valve seals regardless of the spring. You can run single springs with std guides and std seats, but you can never run dual springs with factory seals or spring seats.


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Re: Single vs Dual Valve Spring Question [Re: moper] #649098
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You also have the option of running a beehive spring. Depending on how much lift your going to run they can give you the best of both worlds.







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